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THE OLDEST PEDIGREE CHART<br />
A Genealogical Table of the Horse and Pictures of Horsemen Dating<br />
Back 5,000 Years<br />
WOLFGANG AMSCHLER<br />
Director, Institute of Animal Research, Vienna, Austria<span class="text_exposed_hide">... <span class="text_exposed_link"><a href="http://www.blogger.com/null" onclick="'CSS.addClass($(">See More</a></span></span><span class="text_exposed_show"><br /><br />Here is an excerpt from the above -<br /><br />According<br />to V. Scheil this seal in association with the as yet unexplained signs accompanying it, is an enumeration of horses. If, however, we examine this seal (Figure 6) we discern the following significant facts:<br /><br />1. The horse-heads are situated in four horizontal rows.<br />2. The horses are of three categories as regards their manes: upright manes, pendant manes, and without manes.<br />3. If we examine the location of these three types we find that the three categories have a symmetrical arrangement with reference to the main diagonal.<br />4. It is remarkable that all the heads with pendant manes have a special symbol to the right of them. See the upper row. The head to the extreme right has by it a symbol which resembles a barred window. In the second row the same, at the left. In the third row the middle head from the left has by it a sign of three teeth on the smaller side of the rectangle. Beneath this four teeth. Note in the fourth row, first head on the left, a sign which today is universally used in biology to indicate "female." In this latter case it is remarkable that the symbol is engraved<br />upside down. In the same row the third head from the center is accompanied by a sign which could easily be held to be a carriage with two horses.<br />5. The heads with upright manes in my opinion represent wild stallions, those with pendant manes, tame animals and those without manes, mares.<br />6. It is held by Professor Scheil that the maneless heads are those of colts. That this is not the case is proved to my satisfaction by the fact that some of the maneless heads as the first in the top row and the second in the second row and the third in the third row are pictured of far too coarse and too powerful a build to be mistaken for colts. (The diagonal arrangement of the heads may be also worthy of note).<br />On the other hand we discover in contrast that some very delicate heads such as the fourth in the first row and (he fourth in the third row are definitely maned. There are manes of different character, pendant and upright. An analysis of the head forms is very significant to modern hippology. Wecan note the following facts:<br /><br />a. A definitely ramlike profile of head (head 1, row 1).<br />b. A ramlike profile only in the nose region (head 2, row 1; heads 2 and 3, row 3).<br />c. Perfectly straight profile (all heads of row 2).<br />d. Concave profile of Arabian type combined with graceful slender head (third and fourth head, row 1; fourth head, row 3; fourth head, row 4).<br />e. In addition to these definite differences of the profile line the size of head in respect of the entire length and depth is interesting:<br />Long and deep (head 2, row 2).<br />Medium long and deep (head 2, row 4).<br />Short and deep (head 2 and 3), row 4).<br />Long and slender (head 3, row 1). Connected with Arabian profile.<br />Medium long and slender (head 4, row 3).<br />All the above mentioned differences are regarded not as merely accidental differences of a mechanical or conventional nature but as studied reproductions of differences actually observed in the living animal. The head forms represented in this ancient seal are of types that today may be observed in the different races of horses. I need only note the existence in the Kladruber breed of a strongly ram profile and in the<br />Arabian horse of a concave, fine cut head to demonstrate that the differences recorded five thousand years ago in Elam exist still today. Intermediate shapes can also easily be found. Furthermore these characteristics are familiar to the practical breeder and are known to be definitely hereditary. The dominant inheritance of some of these characteristics is so strong that they are recognized as "prepotent" in<br />inheritance as type of head has been observed to be and passed on for many generations. These head types are undoubtedly inherited as mendelian characters in the horse in nature. Anyone of these forms may become typical of a few animals, of families, or of a<br />whole stable or artificial race through the agency of human selection. It is a matter of no little interest to breeders and geneticists that on this seal from Susa, whose age must be fully fifty centuries, are shown all the profile types of horses existing today This ancient Elamitic testimony regarding the horses existing at that time permits the conclusion that in Elam several original types and races of horses were then used. The horse heads are reproduced with wide, thick and plump, or with fine and aristocratic lines. There is no other alternative<br />open than to classify the thick-set type with the Przewalsky • horse (Equus prsnvalsky Poljakoff), and the slender form with the Tarpan (Equus gmelini Antonius). It is the considered opinion of the author that the early, heavy type of horse of western Europe is to be traced<br />as a direct descendant of the Przewalsky type of wild horse. The heavy Persian horses are not to be considered as importations from Europe in prehistoric times but are the result of breeding native central Asiatic stock, which reached Iran with the Turanian invasions at an early time. The antiquity of this arrival of the horse cannot be determined but must have been very great. The more aristocratic type of<br />horse was native in the highlands of Iran and the plains of northern Central Asia.<br />The early Sumerian and Elamitic civilizations, according to unequivocal testimony which is today available, knew and used the horse. It is the<br />opinion of the author that "seal 105F" which has been discussed above is not as Scheil believes, an enumeration of horses but is a genealogical table of individual horses used for breeding in an old Elamitic stable. If this view is correct, and I believe that any breeder of<br />animals will admit the high probability that this is so, this discovery is the oldest known genealogical table known at the present time.</span></div>
Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-23312071287282389912008-10-14T22:03:00.000-07:002008-10-14T22:11:52.585-07:00LIGHT HANDS OF A WOMAN<span style="font-size:85%;">HI to you all,<br /><br />- Tell me what you think about the topic please?<br />- How much the light hands of a woman effects our horses and their trainings?<br />- How much those light hands effects them while we are working with them specially when the most effective tool (The BIT) is in their mouth?<br />- Long time ago I put a thread up (in another forum) about Men and Women which could do best in training horses , but unfortunately did not get the right response to go on about the subject, I hope I do here.<br />- It will definitely benefit you , your horses , their trainings and their daily normal riding, as you all know I am a man myself.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Holding the REINS by light hands,<br />I will write for you some of what Dr Robert Miller explains on Light Hands in future posts I hope , all the work is done by the fingers and the reins does not go deep inside your hand and you make a fist with the reins in the palm of your hand, the reins should never go deep inside our hands.</span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><u><span style="font-size:85%;">Horse are SENSITIVE TO TOUCH.</span></u></b><br /><br />I am sure the Demo you have seen Jann you would seen the reins are held with fingers and they don't go deep down in the palm of hand and that is important , the lightest touch you could ever give to reins which means the horses mouth , the horses <u><b>GUM</b> </u> is by the tip of your fingers and also the tool in our hands <u><b>(Reins)</b></u> are the most important tool in the horses body.<br />If we train our horses properly we don't need them the reins I mean but unfortunately we don't everything is done by the weight of the rider as the weight shifts to sides , back and forward .<br />Horse could feel the touch of a mosquito on their total body.<br />Unfortunately some riders use reins as maintaining their own stability on the saddle or use it as a handle they don't feel how much pressure they are causing into the horses mouth, if you have a hard bit then it is another story for the poor horse.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Not only for the reins but for all things like Grooming for example , for even our Behavior around horses our own Body Movements , Like picking up our hands or when we want to put a bridle on a horses head, Saddling the horse , putting the rug on. The signals we give and we receive from the horse and specially understanding them in time and signal back in time or if our signals are to be with an action the timing is so important.<br />I think in all of these the most important one is Handling the reins , On the other hand all of the above is important . </span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">This is where you would see the Light touch of a human:<br /><a href="http://www.lighthandshorsemanship.com/" target="_blank">http://www.lighthandshorsemanship.com/</a><br /><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-11425430900080109092008-10-14T21:54:00.000-07:002008-10-14T22:02:36.012-07:00BEST TOOL FOR BREEDERS AND TRAINERS<span style="font-size:85%;">Hi,<br /><br />When a foal is born I have a rug ready for him/her that I have made long before the mare delivery time and I put it under the place which the foal comes out, I keep this rug until the last day this foal would accept saddle and finishes his/her training under saddle. Any time I want to work I use that rug , I let the foal smell that rug and that rug would be with him/her until the learning session is over, This makes the foal and the mare more secure and would help the foal to accept each learning session and would accept things with a greater , secure and trusted grounds, the amount of fear and stress would drop in a great value when the foal experience something new.<br />I hope breeders would try it and see for themselves how much this works and makes the foal accept its environment known , something from the first day of life and has never experience negative from this rug ,<br />Always let the foal smell the rug before starting the session and place it on the subject you want to introduce to her/him , they would accept everything freely without any resistance.<br /><br />I am sorry if I take your precious time but I thought to share some of my experiences with you guys.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">WORD OF A DEAR READER:</span></span><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">What a very compassionate and sensible way to go. I've never had any dealings with foals, never seen one born except on TV but I think its the same with human babies. My two sons both had "cosy covers" when they were babies and it gave them comfort, so much I thought one son would be about 16 before he out-grew it.<br />On the web-sit about light hands someone was doing something to a foals ears. What was he doing and why? </span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">Wish you all the best,<br /><br /><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">MY ANSWER,</span></span><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Rubbing the ears could have two meanings one is to Desensitize the ears and this is very much important for the horse so human could handle their ears especially when you want to bridle a horse if the ears are not desensitized they wont let you to touch them or to move your hand and the touch of the bridle to their ears it would make them to go in a flight position , therefore is best to desensitize their ears for long time handling them .<br /><br />The other reason is the touch , Horses have different spots on their body which would calm them down for example,<br />1- Inside the mouth lower gum rubbing the lower Gum and the lip from inside it clams the horse down and the sign of it is when the horse lowers his/her head down.<br />2- The upper part of the shoulders is another part.<br />3- The Mane is another important place to calm a horse.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Yes it is a great tool , so handy and TRUSTED TOOL for the New Borne to accomplish without fear and less anxiety while you introduce new things to them during their young age.<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:100%;">PH </span></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-54414093263693209702008-10-14T21:33:00.000-07:002009-03-05T16:50:47.046-08:00BEST REWARD IS THE RELEASE OF PRESSURE<span style="font-size:85%;">Hi,<br /><br />What is the best Retreat and Reward for a horse?<br />Taking the pressure off from them in any kind and way. (my view).<br /><br />When I want to work with a colt I would divide my work to three parts, in the end of each part I would unfasten the girth, Take the saddle and the saddle pad off, put a rug (depending on the weather) on the horse take him/her for a walk , when the breathing becomes normal and still the body is warm I put the saddle back on and fasten the girth and do my 2nd part of my session and I will do the same for the last part of my session also, Some times I don't do the other parts of my session if I see something is going wrong and I would stop right there and END it for the day.<br />The steps we divide for one session of learning (incremental learning) and it's time has not to be done to the end this is in the hands of the Trainer , Trainer decides when is the right time to work , work on what and when is the right time to end the session and this is important.<br /><br />I would break a session in different parts and make my steps smaller , sometimes I should finish much sooner than I thought it would take for a session and I should of end it much sooner than what I thought.<br />I would show them what ever I see in my environment , what ever there is even a magazine well the sound of paper is so important for the horse or sound of plastic and the air coming out of a big ball, The crush sound of a dry bush. Learning the Rope and its shape and feel it with their body from the very first days of life, To introduce each of these I break it to different slices in each one for example if I want to introduce the sound and shape of a plastic pag I would do it in different slices and I might not go to the end in one session (horses are different in learning and have different characters just like human beings).<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">This is one of the subjects that could help many riders, if we know what to do and when to do it this is the greatest tool (<i><u>well this tool is a little different with other tools because it is not just a tool it is lots of things combined when we want to Reward a horse by taking pressure off)</u></i> for teaching and introducing something new to your horse specially the young horses , from the colt going to a well trained horse.<br />This is the most effective non violent tool for working with a horse at any age , also is a reward for the horse and the greatest of rewards which horse loves and understands in its nature because there is no Advance to be Retreated and Rewarded as we believe horses are flight animal and the most free wild creatures which they are living on lands which has no end in the wild as herds living by voices they only could hear and body language they could tell and survived for around 45 million years , we in prison them by domesticating them.<br />Work much better than food as treads.<br /></span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />Wish you the best,<br />PH. </span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-86476658186318749002008-04-13T21:00:00.000-07:002008-04-16T18:25:57.637-07:00Make Your Horse To Eat Grain SlowerHorses normally SWALLOW Grain and this is so bad for their health.<br />For this problem I have made a machine which smashes the GRAIN in a way that one seed wont fall apart it is as one but smashed, In this way you will not see one piece grain in the horse droppings.<br />I always have mixed GRAIN with the ALFALFA and HAY in their feed pan this has slowed them down from taking excessive amount at once in mouth full. It also increases their fiber intake. I have also noticed weight gain in a months time and my horses seem to be more relaxed and less excitability at their feed time .<br />Mix one scoop of Grain and some amount of Alfalfa. You can also put some feed on top of Hay in their feeder. Adding water will also slow their eating and will benefit their SWALLOWING by older horses.<br />I think in general many of the Horses Lameness are coming from Diet and Weight of the Horse.<br />The most pressured part of the Horses body is the Hoof and in the Hoof the most pressure is on the HEALS therefore we have to watch the Horse weight and diet.<br />Keeping the Horse weight in normal depends on the amount of Forage , the Diet , little amount in 4 to 5 times a day , Do not allow the Horse to have Food at all time.<br />If we compare the Natural Horse Diet we will see Horses because of running from one place to another from the predator they don't have the food and water at all time they eat and drink little amount in different times during one day , don't worry about the Horse not having too much food at once , We are not doing good by giving them too much food at once and all day long present for them.<br /><br /><span style=";font-family:Arial,sans-serif;font-size:85%;" > </span><br /><br /><div style="text-align: center;">PH<br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-14571839516339069662008-01-09T22:13:00.000-08:002008-03-23T13:16:30.925-07:00SENSITIZING and DESENSITIZING<span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;"><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >What is a SIGNAL or CUE?</span></span><br /><div style="text-align: left; font-family: arial;">This is anything that puts pressure on the horse. A signal is a stimulus. Surprisingly a signal does not have to be physical. You can have your horse respond to a stimulus without ever touching him/her. A signal can be applied to your horse by eye contact the form of your body position or physical pressure.<br /></div><span style="font-family:verdana;">For example : With your hand or your lead rope.</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" ><span>What is Desensitizing?</span></span><br /><div style="text-align: left; font-family: arial;">This is when you continually apply a stimulus until all response is eliminated. You are desensitizing your horse every time you repeatedly apply a stimulus. This stimulus can be your hand patting his/her neck, a brush on his/her belly, a halter on his/her face, a tall wrap on his/her tail, a saddle on his/her back, even your voice and body language . You have taught him/her that when you touch him/her with any of these things, he/she should give you NO response. You have desensitized him/her to those things.<br /></div><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" >How do you properly Desensitize a horse?</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;" >1. Create a stimulus.</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;" >2. Wait for NO response.</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;" >3. Release the stimulus and praise horse.</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;" >4. Wait 2 - 3 seconds and start at No:1 again.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" >Important points when Desensitizing:</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">When creating a stimulus such as stroking or rubbing using your hand you must continue with the stimulus consistently until the horse gives you NO response. If you remove the stimulus before the horse stops responding you will be sensitizing him/her (this is how bad habits form).</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">He/she will believe that whatever action he/she was taking (whether it was a swish of his/her tail or a stomp of his foot ... or anything) is was the correct action But what you wanted was NO action, NO responses.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" >Here's an Example:</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">You want to teach a foal to accept various types of brushes and to allow you to groom him/her. You start with a soft, easily accepted brush such as a Horse - Hair brush. You begin stroking him/her with the soft brush even if he walks around or twitches his/her skin. Once he/she stands still and gives NO response you remove the stimulus (The Brushing).</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" >What is Sensitizing?</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">This is when you continually apply a stimulus until you get a response. If you sensitize a horse correctly he will respond immediately and %100 of the time he will never not listen to the cue.</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">Many people sensitize their horse "on accident" ... this is how horses learn bad habits. Read below to learn how to desensitize and sensitize your horse properly so that you won't ever "accidentally" teach him/her bad habits.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" >How do you properly SENSITIZE a horse to a specific cue?</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" >1. Create a Stimulus.</span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" >2. Wait for the correct response.</span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" >3. Immediately release the stimulus.</span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span><span style="font-weight: bold;font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" >4. Wait 2-3 seconds and start at No:1 again.</span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><br /></span><br /><span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Important points when Sensitizing:</span></span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">When creating a stimulus such as pressure from your hand you must continue with that stimulus consistently until the horse gives you the correct response. If you remove the stimulus before the horse responds correctly you will be desensitizing him/her (this is how bad habits form).</span><br /><span style="font-family:verdana;">He/She will believe that he/she doesn't have to respond to that stimulus since he/she got rewarded (release of pressure is the best reward) when he/she did nothing.</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-style: italic;font-family:verdana;font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Here's an example:</span></span><br /><span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" >You put pressure on his/her ribs with your fingers. He/She feels this and notices that after a few seconds or few minutes it becomes annoying or irritating . He/She then tries everything that horse can to get you to take your finger away from his/her ribs. He/She may shake his/her head or swish his/her tail or move towards you (as if to push you out of the way) and finally the horse moves away. Once horse moves away you release the stimulus immediately. Horse will soon realizes that you will stop pushing on his/her ribs when he/she steps away from you or from your finger pushing on the ribs.</span><br /><br /><br /><span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" ><span style="font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">Why and How these Methods work well on every Horse?</span></span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">This works extremely well because horses use these methods on each other.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">A mare will teach her foal to stay close by calling the foal vocally.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Once the foal moves closer to her Mother she will immediately stop calling her foal.</span><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" >How are most "Bad Habits" formed?</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Bad habits are formed by the Rider/Owner confusing Desensitizing with Sensitizing.</span><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic;font-size:100%;" >These two lines above are so important and crucial for the Horse,Trainer,Rider, Owner and anyone who has got anything to do with these creatures (HORSES) please keep this like a board in front of your eyes, PLEASE.</span><br /></div><span style=";font-family:verdana;font-size:100%;" ><br /><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" >Example of a rider confusing SENSITIZING with DESENSITIZING:</span></span><br /></div><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;font-family:verdana;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span>"It happens all the time and most of the problems starts here"</span></span><br /></div><br /><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" >The rider puts pressure on the horse's mouth asking the horse to slow down. When the horse slows down slightly the rider does not release the pressure on the horse's mouth and decides to turn instead. What's the problem? Well the horse never gets his release, therefore the horse becomes confused as to whether or not slowing down is the correct action to take when pressure is put on his/her mouth.<br />Not to mention the horse went from one signal to the next without a release ... when the rider doesn't REWARD the horse in the form of a release the horse becomes confused and /or begins to ignore the signal (resulting in a HARD MOUTH) .<br />Now honestly how many times have you done this? I used to do this all the time (and wondered why the horses would stop listening to me) before I learned the simple methods I am going to outline here,<br />By using proper DESENSITIZING and SENSITIZING methods consistently while working around or riding your horse . Horses will become unbelievably responsive to every cue you give them. When you apply a stimulus all the horse wants out of life at that very moment is for you to release the stimulus. This is why treats are not necessary when training a horse.<br /><br /><span style="font-size:100%;">How many of us have seen wrong body positioning one the seat of the saddle?<br /><br />Instead of Desensitizing the Ear we Sensitize it and in the end we say the Training did not work properly but we don't say we did not do it right.<br /><br /><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">With all respect to Robert Miller D.V.M </span><br /></span></span></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style="font-family:arial;"><br /><br />Persian Horse<br /><br /></span></span></span></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-46292891306844244392008-01-08T07:34:00.000-08:002008-03-10T11:23:41.788-07:00The Six Sence In Horses<span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><span style=""><span style="font-family:georgia;">How much do we know about the Six Sense of the Horse?</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">How strong is the Six Sense of the Horse?</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;">The powers which we don't have.</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">For example:</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">How a Horse could tel an Earth Quake or Tsunami?</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">They have powers which we can not even dream of.</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">I wish those whom just put their legs into Stirrup and seat on the saddle and slashing the whip so aggressively on the greatest creature of all times could realize where they have the opportunity to seat and act at least as a human being so we could COPE with this highly sensitive problem of not understanding or misunderstanding.</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">How many of us understands the creature before putting the leg over this creature?</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">Before driving a car we read a lot to know what is a car , do we do the same at least to know what creature we are going to ride?</span><br /><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">Did they (Horses) came to existence for us to ride them?</span><br /><span style="font-family:georgia;">I don't know I may be wrong writing these , if so please tell me.</span><br /></span><br /><br /></span> <div style="border: 3pt double red; padding: 0in 4pt 2pt; font-family: georgia;"><div style="text-align: center;"> </div><p class="MsoNormal" style="border: medium none ; padding: 0in; text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:100%;">The Sixth Sense of the greatest creatures living fortunately on this planet, why I am saying fortunately because the man kind did not make them vanish and that is because men needed them our needs made us to somehow let them survive.<o:p></o:p></span></p> </div> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><br /></span></p><p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">One of the main reasons that we use to keep horses in our homes next to where we sleep (bedrooms) is because of this powerful tool horses have and we don’t, they can tell an Earth Quake before we even could think about it.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">We as humans can tell the earth quake the time of actually happening which means the earth is shaking.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">Horses could tell Earth Quake up to minutes and this is very important for us to get ready, Horses even react , they start to Kick, If tied they will break the rope, running in their places if they are locked up they start to do something for freeing themselves as the Prison Break.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">The science has given the “Sixth” sense rather somehow meaningless name of “Proprioception”.<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><o:p> </o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">Proprioceptor<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">Pro·pri·o·cep·tor<span style=""> </span>[pr?pree ? sépt?r] (plural pro·pri·o·cep·tors) noun<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">nerve ending: a sensory nerve ending in muscles, tendons, and joints that provides a sense of the body’s position by responding to stimuli from within the body<o:p><br /></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">[Early 20th century. Coined from Latin proprius “your own” + receptor .]<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">—pro·pri·o·cep·tion, noun<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">—pro·pri·o·cep·tive, adjective<o:p></o:p></span></p> <p class="MsoNormal" style="font-family:georgia;"><span style="font-size:100%;">Encarta® World English Dictionary © & (P) 1999 Microsoft Corporation. All rights reserved. Developed for Microsoft by Bloomsbury Publishing Plc.<o:p></o:p></span></p><span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;" ><br /></span><span style="font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:100%;"><span style=";font-family:georgia;font-size:100%;" ><br />This subject is not finished yet, I hope to finish it if life gives me more days.</span><br /></span><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" ><span>PH</span></span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;"></span></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-77764645467050187372007-12-27T14:17:00.000-08:002008-01-08T17:12:34.469-08:00Odd Horse Behaviour - Vice?<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">Q -</span><br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">The field where I keep my horse and pony is split into 2, a new horse has come for a short term visit so he went into the field with loads of grass so I put my TB in with him. The horse is an ex race horse, about 3 years old and has just come off the racing yard as he didn't <span style="font-size:130%;">suit racing.</span><br /><br />All was fine for the first few days, I did notice that the new horse is the boss which mine doesn't like but now I have noticed all the grass along one side of the gate about 8 square feet is bare earth, the new TB stands licking the ground for a lot of the time when he isn't pacing the fence. My TB who had no odd habits is now copying, is this a vice, is something deficient in the diet, mine is just on grass no feed, the new one has a feed but not sure what is in it.<br /><br />Anyone encountered this before?</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">A -</span><br /></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >You said you have two different places so:</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >The first thing you should do and do it right now is to SEPARATE your horse from the new horse because your horse will pick up all the bad habits that all race horses carry Unfortunately. </span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >Yes Ex - Racehorses have stress problems and the owners must rebuild their bad habits and remove their stress from their brains <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">these are all the Human fault</span></span></span> which all race horses get during that time. </span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >A lot of wonderful people "rescue" ex-racehorses and want to rehabilitate them but some don't understand the challenges facing them. Sometimes they get lucky and reach their goal with a little difficulty, the challenges are hard and takes a lot of time and patient. Sometimes you take one step forward and two steps backwards.</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >I always suggest to take the ex-racehorse back to the first basics of Horse Training.</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >I can say all ex-racehorse have no "Trust" and for rehabilitating a ex-racehorse all is about how much "Trust" we can develop between us and the Horse for doing that all happens on the ground in the basics of Gentle and appropriate Communication.</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /></span><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >What are the needs of a ex-racehorse:</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-style: italic;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >Changing old patterns , Developing a Huge amount of "TRUST" and "RESPECT" and Deep Profound "BOND".</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >Wish you the best and don't forget to remove your Horse before is too late.</span><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-71458753218407465762007-12-27T14:01:00.000-08:002008-03-24T16:13:49.746-07:00What would make you suspect an eye problem?<span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:180%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;"><br />Q -</span><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><span style="font-size:130%;"> Hi. I suspect the four year old I am looking after may have problems with his eyesight on one side. Could anyone tell me what symptoms or behaviors they would expect in horses with eyesight problems and what i should be looking for if this is the case.<br /><br />Particularly when carrying out groundwork would there be anything glaring that might be noticed? All experience and advice appreciated.<br /></span><br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">A -</span><br /></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:180%;" ><u>The EAR - Watch the EAR ABOVE the PROBLEM EYE.<br /><br /></u></span><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >If you concentrate on the Ears you will see there is no harmony between the two ears and you will see the eye which you think has a problem the ear above it will always in motion and turning so the Horse could collect information from the side which has sight problem.</span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >For Example: </span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" ><span>If a Horse eye (Left) has problem the Left Ear will always be in motion and it dose not rest like the Right Ear and also the left ear will lose it's harmony with the right ear.</span></span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >I hope there is nothing wrong with your horse and I wish you and your horse the best and good health too.</span><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-9943114337451169602007-12-27T13:35:00.000-08:002008-01-08T16:22:26.156-08:00Learning To Pick Up 4 Feet<div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);"><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" ><span>"Four Feet Means The Horse Only Defense TOOL"</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" >The reason we say young foals must be </span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;font-size:180%;" >Imprint Trained</span><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" > is this and the 4 legs must be Desensitized right after birth unfortunately many don't do and come to a point that might hurt themselves or the poor Horse and many think this is the work of Farrier which is not.</span><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center; color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-style: italic;">would we give up our only defense tool to someone which we have no relation no Bond , Trust and Confidence?</span><br /></span></div><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" ><br /><br />Stay out of the kick area and be aware of it.<br /><br />The only Defense Horses have in time of danger is their legs therefor you are asking a Horse to give up their only defense tool, so you have to be patient.<br /><br />Grooming is very much important because the Horse logical Communication starts with Grooming but start in a sensitive way make each session short take some steps back pause then go to the horse praise then restart your grooming this is very important to make your sessions short and take some steps away from the horse.<br />Start with grooming Establish Trust make good Bond and Gain their Confidence.<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" >Desensitize each leg without picking them up just rub them until they are fully Desensitized to the touch of your hand</span>.<br /><br />After Desensitizing just very lightly clap each leg by your hand normally after some clapping they pick that hand up when they do Hold the hand for few seconds and let go don't hold the hand or leg too much.<br />Is best to leave the Horse after each session and take some steps back so they know you are no harm to them.<br />If the Horse is holding his/her head up that means you wont be able to pick any hand the horses head must come down (normal position) this means the horse is calm while you are with him/her ? if not start with grooming again and be more patient and give more quality time spend more time with the horse , lead properly too.<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);font-family:arial;" >If you are not so sure that you can desensitize the 4 legs by your hands then you can make an artificial hand to especially doing this and Desensitizing the 4 legs.</span><br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;"><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >PH</span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-59816154310323927942007-12-25T11:25:00.000-08:002008-01-08T16:38:32.055-08:00LONG LINE REINING<div style="text-align: center;font-family:arial;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >LUNGING or LONG LINE REINING the HORSE WHICH IS BEST FOR THE HORSE NOT THE HUMAN?</span></span><br /></div><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><br /><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-family:arial;">1- let your horse to smell the lines as long as needed (the time to be used to long line is different on horses).</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">2-the horse should not be afraid of the long lines for a good start.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">3-when the long line goes around the legs for the first time the horse starts to kick with both legs this is normal and you should let the horse to kick as much as he likes so after some time he will not kick at all and the line around the legs is normal for him.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">always finish on a good ground do not rush at all.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">DO NOT FORGET THE STEP BACKWARD AFTER GOING IN STRAIGHT LINE ON WALK (A STEP BACK AND RELEASE OF PRESSURE (THE RELEASE OF PRESSURE IS THE BEST REWARD AND AUTOMATICALLY WHEN THE HORSE PUTS ONE STEP TO THE BACK THE PRESSURE IS RELEASED.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">Make turns with the long line .</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">make circle with the long line and change the direction(before any change in direction dont forget the step backwards this is Important.</span><br /><span style="font-family:arial;">wish you all the best.</span><br /><br /></span></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >Single line longeing puts the horse OFF BALANCE with his SPINE in a COUNTER ARC.<br />A LOSE HORSE moving naturally is BALANCED and moves in a natural arc.<br />The LONG LINES ARE BALANCED AND THE HORSE IS MOVING AS HE WOULD NATURALLY.<br />Monty Roberts Points:<br />1- Do not single line lounge your horse.<br />2- Single line longeing:<br />Throws the horse off balance.<br />Causes the horse to cross canter.<br />Damages ligaments,tendons and muscle.<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >Lunging horses is totally wrong , Lunging puts the horse off balance (HORSE LOSSES THE BALANCE FROM TAIL TO THE SPINE AND FINALLY THE NECK AND ALL THE WAY TO THE MUZZLE IN ONE WORD HORSE LOSSES THE BALANCE FROM TAIL TO MUZZLE.<br />The best and most schooling or training from the GROUND is LONG LINING AND YOU SHOULD ALWAYS TRAIN (%80) OF YOUR WORK ON A HORSE BY WALK ONLY.<br />WALK BUILDS THE HORSE FOR ALL THE THINGS YOU ASK FOR.<br />Long lining is very simple if you do it on walk only (the benefit of WALK is you can control the horse easily specially for some one without the experience of long lining.<br />The benefit of long lining it makes the horse to move and walk in a COLLECTION this is very crucial that horse moves in collection.<br />When you long line a horse for the first time he or her resists and starts to buck because of the BUT ROPE (THE ROPE WHICH IS THE OUTER ONE AND COMES AROUND THE HIND ABOVE THE HOCK) BUT SOON THE BUCKING WILL STOP THE AMOUNT OF BUCKING IS DIFFERENT IN HORSES.<br />BUCKING has a good reason for the horse (The horse has to change the way which he or she has moved from birth until now, with long lining for the first time you are changing the movement of the total body of the horse you are asking for a change even in the behavior of the horse and this needs a great deal of change).<br />Long lining a horse for the first time must be stop when the bucking has stopped in other words you have done a great deal of work and you have finished on a positive ground (finishing on a positive ground is important ).<br />For example if you long line your horse for the first time and he starts to buck and lets say he buck for 5 minutes and he stops bucking and starts to walk this is the best starting session for the day and start the 2nd session the next day.<br />The length of time is not important the quality of good work and finishing on positive ground is important.<br />For example with long lining you can train the horse on WALK ONLY but with one line lunging you can not control the horse and mostly start with TROTTING ,CANTERING OR GALLOP which is negative.<br />With long lining you can do the step to the back but with one line lunging you can not make the horse to step back (the step back is very crucial in training horses).<br />I hope I have not missed anything but if there is anything which is up to my knowledge I will be glad to answer.<br />One other thing which is very much important with long lining and horse walking in a collection, horse brings the HINDS UNDER (THIS MEANS HORSE PUTS THE PRESSURE ON THE MAIN SOURCE OF THE POWER WHICH ARE THE LEGS AND USES THE HANDS FOR CHANGING THE DIRECTION AND YOU WILL NOTICE THIS WHEN YOUR HORSE IS GOING DOWN HILL).<br />Horses which are not using the HINDS as the main source of the power when they go down hill you feel with each step the fork of your saddle will punch you right between your legs but horses which use the hinds as the main power you feel nothing and all the movement is very smooth.<b><br /><br /></b></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >One of the important benefits of long lining is :<br /><b>Long Lining brings the Horse on the Hinds and Horse will learn the main power or the source of the power are the Hinds the Hands are for changing the direction.</b>Most of the Horses that have Hand problem it is because of this that they are not walking on Hinds and they put more pressure on the Hands especially on jumping.<br /><b>The but rope and the pressure on the nose (Horse Head) makes the Horse to bring the Hinds under .</b>The other benefit of the Long Lining is it makes the Horse to walk in <b>COLLECTION.</b><br />Horse walking in COLLECTION this is crucial too.<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >All horses when they are single line lunged the keep their head slightly out from the circle this is general with all horses in single lunging.<br /><br />All horses when they are long lining (2 line) the keep their head slightly inward the circle this is general with all horses in long lining (2 line each going inside the stirrup).<br />When a horse is free of any rope circling in a round pen you will see his head is slightly inside of the circle so his neck and his poll , it is the same when a rider is circling a horse his head , neck and his poll are towards the inside of the circle now we come to the main point that when a horse is circling the inside hand will go first for Example if we are circling to the left the left hand of the horse will go first then his outer hand (the right hand) and when we are circling to the right the right hand will pick up first and go first therefore in any direction the hand which is inside the circle will be picked and go first. this is good for the balance of the horse and in riding the rider has the corporative of the horses body horse can react fully to the riders action and ability to control.<br />Imagine if all I said will be in opposite the neck the poll the head and the hand and the horses axis what will happen nothing is in the control of the horse and if the rider is on then it will be a disaster just Imagine for one second.<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><span style="font-size:130%;">What I mean by lunging is single line attached to the horse head either on the top of his/her nose or under his/her chin no matter the main point is the single line lunging which the lunger has no control what so ever over the horse especially if the horse is green or the horse has not come out for some time and has more energy than the horse which comes out every day this kind of horse will use most of his/her energy in the first moment when he/she strikes out I think anyone can imagine what I am saying.</span><br /></span><span style="font-size:100%;"><br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Let me ask you some simple questions if you do not mind:</span><br /><span style="font-size:130%;">1- How do you stop a horse on single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">2- How do you take a step back (rein back a horse) on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">3- How do you do the figure 8 on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">4- How do you correct the inside Hand of the horse on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">5- How do you change direction on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">6- How do you make the horse to stand still for a moment to relax on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">7- How do you make a horse to walk on a collection with a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">8- How do you make a horse to bring his/her hinds under?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">9- How do you make a horse to go on walk only or trot only or canter only on a single line?<br /></span><span style="font-size:130%;">10- How do you train a young Horse without any physical damage to the hands and hinds on a single line?<br /><br />These are the very crucial thing that a trainer must do especially with a young horse.<br /><br />Please can you answer these question for me I will be honored.<br /></span><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" >For example :</span><br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" > x = <span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Human<br /><br /></span> ( = <span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;">Horse , this is a positive and correct body positioning and no damage to the horses spine.<br /><br /></span> ) =<span style="font-style: italic; font-weight: bold;"> Horse Which has wrong body position because of single line lunging the reason for that is single line lunging puts the horse off balance and this will damage the spine for the rest of the creatures life.<br /><br /></span></span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">When we single line lunge (especially the single rope is attached on the top of the nose the position of the horse to the x which is the lunger is :<br /></span> <br /><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> X -------------------------------------------------------------- (</span><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Lunger </span></span><the><span style="font-weight: bold;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> Horse</span></span><br /><br /><span style="font-size:130%;">This diagram I hope explain what I am talking about I hope.<br />The horse on a single line lunge will look like this < ( > towards the lunger.<br />The horse body his inside ear closer to the lunger his Muzzle out his Spine is in a arc position like the < ( > his hands unbalanced his Hinds unbalanced .</span><br /><span style="font-size:130%;">Because of all in the above the single line lunging puts the horse off balance.</span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;">The Horse with 2 long line reining is:</span><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> X----------------------------------------------------------)<br />The two long line reining The Horse</span><br /><br /><span style="font-size:130%;">In 2 long line reining the horse moves naturally and balanced and his/her spine in a arc like this ).<br />Even the loose horse in a round pen when going in a circle is like the above and moves naturally and balanced and his/her spine in a arc like this ).<br /><br /><br /></span></the></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >The single line lunger has no control on a single line lunge what so ever.<br />There for if we have no control over something and horse has all the controls why we do it then what is the purpose of doing something like that.<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" > Long line (2 lines) reining it is more likely like a remote riding with no rider on the horse and the main thing is the hind rope (the but rope) this is more effective this is where you put the horse on walking on collection until you don't teach a horse to go on collection the horse will not learn and many of the hand injuries are from the horse not on collection.<br />You experience this when your horse is going Down Hill , how do you feel up there when your horse is going down hill?<br />You can stop a horse with 2 line when ever you want.<br />You can make the horse to step back when ever you want.<br />You can go from walk to trot and more when ever you want and many other things.<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" >One of the most important reasons of all is the single line lunging puts the horse off balance as I said in the previous post this is the most important reasons of all that I am against single line lunging.<br />The other reasons come after the main one .<br />If it is so and you do everything with your voice and the horse is in your command and does everything by your voice why you put the single rope on the horse head in the first place in other words just put your horse on lunge with no rope on.<br /><br />One line lunging:<br />We can not ignore the weight of the line which the horse is carrying on one side of his/her body therefor the weight of the line unbalances the horse it pulls the horse head inside and at the same time horse wants to travel equal on both sides thats why the horse inside ear is closer to you than his/her nose.<br />If the lunger pull the line more weight will be on the single line and it will put the horse more in to a unbalanced position , because of this the horse neck and poll is not relaxed in this way.<br />All what I said in this post and previous ones it will put the horse muscles and skeleton in a bad position and it will damage them all in this way horse will put more pressure on the outside hind and the inside hand this will damage some important ligaments,tendons and muscles especially in young horses it will end in physiological damages.<br />When you loss such a horse which has traveled in this manner (single line lunging) he/she will travel in the same manner by its own and it will end in back problems.<br />I am not against Lunging I am against single line lunging.<br />Some people when they are in a round pen they still use a single line attached to the horse head it is better to loss the horse and try to lunge without the single line.<br />You always talk about I do this and that with my horse I am saying when you put a horse for the first time on a single lunge the horse will not obey you at all.<br />Horses that obey you by your words they are the ones that you have used words with stimuli after some time the word has the reaction of the stimuli but from the beginning if you just say WHOA the horse will not understand that he has to stop but if you use it for some time the word and the stimuli then the word will have the meaning of that particular stimuli (Pavlov the Russian professor).<br /><br /></span><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:100%;" ><span style="font-size:130%;">I have seen people when they are frightened or the horse is showing too much energy because they are not either capable or they are afraid they single line lunge the horse so the poor horse will get tired and losses his energy then they ride him this happens especially on stallions and because the horse is starting with a lot of energy at the beginning the horse will harm himself.<br /><br />The first few minutes are very crucial because the horse has lots of energy and he will put it all in action in the starting point of single line lunging this is the moment when all the harm is done.</span><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;font-family:arial;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-family:arial;font-size:130%;" ><span>This post is not finished it needs more work to do so please if you see any mistakes or things written so many times please forgive me.</span></span><br /></div><span style=";font-family:arial;font-size:85%;" ><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-38247580609067643382007-12-25T10:48:00.000-08:002007-12-25T10:50:40.880-08:00HORSE SECRET INSTINCTS<span style="font-size:85%;"><b>Dear all :<br /><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:85%;" ><b><span style="font-size:130%;">I need your help for adding to these.</span></b></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><br />1- Horse is a flight animal not a fight animal.<br />2- Hoses need to see everything from the both sides (from each eye).<br />3- Horses have emotions.<br />4- Praise is the real reward for horses.<br />5- For learning something there must be peace in horses mind.<br />6- Horses do not see food the way that predators do.<br />7- Horses communicate with their body language.<br />8- For teaching something to a horse just show them a few times they will learn quick.<br />9- The horse eye works like a binocular.<br />10- Horses are very delicate to touch.<br />11- Horse is a mimic animal but mostly from their own.<br />12- Horses see colour White , Red (mostly like brown) , Green , Yellow<br />13- Horses have excellent night vision and can learn at night time just like day time.<br />14- Horses have good sense of coming home (finding home at night and day).<br />15- Horses can feel (from the hoof to the brain) the holes in the ground when they are running they do this by the middle ear the same way that they could tell the earth quake.<br />16- Horses have great memories.<br />17- Horses have habits.<br />18- Horses are excellent in reading minds.<br />19- Horses are into pressure creatures.<br />20- Horses are very good for responding to Imprint Training at birth.<br /><br />With regards.<br /><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></b></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-14170179360782365632007-12-25T10:12:00.000-08:002007-12-25T10:51:44.132-08:00VIOLENCE & INTELLIGENCE<span style="font-size:85%;">Hi to all:<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">We are responsible for our Horses and their Actions.</span></span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />What do we call Violence?<br />What do we call Intelligence? (I don't mean the definition of the word)<br /><br />1-Hobbling.<br />2-Whipping.<br />3-Castrating.<br />4-Boxing and Stabling.<br />5-Shoeing.<br />6-Horse Harnesses.<br />7-Our Body actions and our Body Language.<br />8-Even Riding.<br />9-The actions we take as Punishment.<br />10- .... You add to my list Please or take off from my list I didn't try to put all the things which I think are violence so please complete the list in either way thank you. .<br /><br />And more if you please add , tell me where do we draw the line and say this is Violence towards this creature?<br /><br />How and when do we use our intelligence to prevent something cruel , aggressiveness , punishment and violence?<br /><br />What are the Positive and Negative results of these on the Horse.<br />Is the result of a violence action appears right away or dose it appear in the future or in a longer period of time?<br /><br />Dose the effect of violence has many outcomes or just a simple one? <br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"> An act of violence destroys trust. Without trust, you cannot work as one with your horse.</span><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">I know One thing any kind and amount of violence destroys Trust.<br />Trust , establishing trust as we all say.<br />Trust wont match the punishment and violence and any other action which is the feeling of the Horse.<br />Trust with our partner (Horse).<br />There are other things but to my knowledge this is the most important one.</span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">To be honest and frank I have to become a Horse to answer my post .<br />The definition must be given by a Horse not by our dictionary , don't you think so?<br /><br />But I try my best to become a Horse as much as I can to answer to your posts next time I get on line , as I said in other thread you have to be in the mood for doing something especially things that has something to do with your mind and brain working , Don't you think so?<br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> We have to know the feelings of the Horse to each single thing.<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-37113999708085640692007-12-23T09:54:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:32.806-08:00Teaching My Horse Going Downhill<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtCrgPvJhMRjGvxk0TzntWEeiHMCcoTCfcUZhIkyfjhlthqITVscXi-w2Jf8afCxKMy0LkfgZx7fLxYlnqkILxf2MNPRehZ4SAv9geagDav5UWgmzprBU9hXnENtLJFAcF312l0h6Mme0h/s1600-h/JQ4P5250PersianArabAshaphanHorseFestival.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEgtCrgPvJhMRjGvxk0TzntWEeiHMCcoTCfcUZhIkyfjhlthqITVscXi-w2Jf8afCxKMy0LkfgZx7fLxYlnqkILxf2MNPRehZ4SAv9geagDav5UWgmzprBU9hXnENtLJFAcF312l0h6Mme0h/s320/JQ4P5250PersianArabAshaphanHorseFestival.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5147237579957723586" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >Q - </span><span style="font-size:85%;"> Hi persianhorse, about that question i asked on the other very long thread and then sort of forgot about it....so sorry.<br /><br />i asked for tips on getting my mare better balanced going downhill.<br /><br />and you said<br /><br />Susan in Greece : I will do my best and up to my knowledge .<br />1- Do you have a round PEN? If not a place with 5 inch of cushion for schooling and about 20 meters in diameter?<br />2- Do you have a pair of long lines?<br />3- Do you have 2nd rider to help you sometimes?<br />4- How old is your MARE?<br /><br />1. i'm afraid no round pen or schooling area at all<br />2. sorry no,<br />3. yes (phew)<br />4. she's 6<br /><br />i'm curious about what you are going to suggest<br /><br />best wishes<br /><br />susan.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >A</span> <span style="font-size:180%;"> <span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">-</span> </span> If you want to know it deep by measurement and see how fast is your horse is improving <u><b>Please read the POSTS I POSTED IN THE THREAD (WHY MY HORSE IS WALKING SIDEWAYS?) </b></u>I<span style="color:Red;"><b><br />EXPLAIN SOME MEASUREMENTS ABOUT THE PLACE OF THE HIND WHERE IS THE BEST PLACE FOR THE HIND TO LAND , AND THE SADDLE PUNCHES YOU IN WHERE YOUR LEGS ARE JOINED UNDER YOUR BELLY.</b></span>MAKE THESE MEASUREMENTS BEFORE YOU START.<br /><b>YOU NEED <span style="font-size:130%;">2</span> LONG LINES WHICH WONT CUT THE HIND LEGS OF THE HORSE (ONE OF THE ROPES IS CALLED THE BUTT ROPE THE ONE WHICH IS ALWAYS ON AND AROUND THE HIND LEGS.</b><span style="color:Red;"><b>You have to get the <span style="font-size:130%;">2</span> long ropes they are the main tool for bringing the horse on his hinds.</b></span><br />I have to go I explain more latter but definitely <b>find the long lines it is crucial for this schooling and many other thing in future you will need them.</b><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b>Do not make things hard for yourself.<br />1- Just saddle the horse.<br />2- Close the stirrups together under the horses belly so they stand still.<br />3- Put one end of the rope to the (D ring) if you have a western hackamore better.<br />4- The ropes will go inside the stirrups .<br />5- Stand at one point and the other two ends of the ropes are in your hands.<br />6- One of the ropes the out side one (THE BUTT ROPE) WILL TOUCHES SLIGHTLY ON THE HORSES HIND ABOVE THE HOCKS WHERE IT IS CURVED INSIDE.<br />7- JUST DO NOTHING FOR SOME TIME AND SEE WHAT IS THE REACTION OF THE HORSE.<br />8- HORSES WHICH HAVE NOT EXPERIENCED THE BUTT ROPE AND IT IS THE FIRST TIME THAT THE ROPE IS TOUCHING THEIR HINDS THEY WILL BUCK FOR SOME TIME THIS IS GOOD DO NOT WORRY.<br />9- AFTER SOME BUCKING THE HORSE WILL COME TO A STAND STILL POSITION AND THIS IS GOO FOR THE 1st DAY OF SCHOOLING THE 1st DAY IS JUST TO SHOW THE HORS THE ROPES AND FEELING THE BUTT ROPE (FEELING THE BUT ROPE IS VERY MUCH CRUCIAL) THE STATE OF WALKING OF YOUR HORSE WILL CHANGE FOR GOOD TO WARDS BETTER TOWARD BRINGING THE HINDS UNDER TO WARDS THE HORSE TO WALK ON LEGS AND NO PRESSURE ON HANDS ANY MORE.<br />10- THE SECOND SESSION JUST WHAT YOU DO WHEN YOU LOUNGE A HORSE BUT THIS TIME WITH 2 ROPES AND A ROPE ON THE BUTT (WALK ONLY AND A STEP TO THE BACK AND CHANGE THE DIRECTION OF THE CIRCLE.<br />11- DOING THE No:10 FOR SOME DAYS PUT A RIDER ON AND BRING THE BUTT ROPE AROUND AND STAND TO THE SIDE OF THE HORSE HEAD (THE ROPE NOW IS STARTING ON THE OTHER SIDE INSIDE THE STIRRUP OF THE OTHER SIDE AROUND THE HINDS (BUTT) AND INTO YOUR HAND NOW YOU PUT THE PRESSURE ON THE BUTT ROPE AND THE RIDER HOLD THE HORSE SO IT WONT GO FORWARD THEN THE RIDER SLIGHTLY RELEASES THE PRESSURE AND YOU PUT ON THE PRESSURE ON THE BUTT ROPE SO THE HORSE GOES ONE STEP FORWARD AND YOU DO THIS AROUND A CIRCLE AND CHANGE SIDES (ONE THE LEFT SIDE IS INSIDE THE OTHER THE RIGHT IS INSIDE).<br />WITHE DOING THIS YOUR HORSE WILL BE ON HINDS LIKE A BLINK OF AN EYE.<br />IF YOU HAVE ANY ? I WILL BE GLAD TO ANSWER.<br /><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><span style="color:Red;">IF YOU DO THIS PROPERLY THE CONFORMATION OF YOUR HORSE WILL BE CHANGED IF NOT I WILL LEAVE THIS (IHDG) FOR GOOD.</span><br />THE STATE OF YOUR HORSE IN DOWN HILL , UP HILL ON WALK AND EVERYTHING ELSE WILL CHANGE AND DO NOT SAY I CAN NOT DO IT.<br />PLEASE DO NOT MIX THE LONG LINING WITH LUNGING (LUNGING HORSES IS BAD BECAUSE IT PUTS THE HORSE OFF BALANCE AND LONG LINING PUTS THE HORSE ON COLLECTION , LEGS UNDER AND BALANCE).<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-style: italic;font-size:130%;" >Everything works well when the Horse has learned Collection this is so Important for the Horse and the rider.Please don't believe those whom would say only those should learn <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">COLLECTION</span> that they do Dressage I call these people the <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Enemy</span> of the <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Horse</span> & <span style="color: rgb(0, 0, 0);">Rider</span>.</span><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><br /></span></b></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></b></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-71566646431886519372007-12-21T09:53:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:32.953-08:00Horses Could Read Our Body Language From Distance<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi53_bfrdhoNeyU1HfCopqm5KsFqoI0yAVlnhw3y8QmBbfAZEF-T4dZR7RnKccy3MwoVi5QYgwCknijG2JxrcrBm5suPCjQNdLW5zLDQmd4azWJqy7EPhPXH0MLrdxJsiyiemnqc5yef-Fw/s1600-h/JQ4P5068DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEi53_bfrdhoNeyU1HfCopqm5KsFqoI0yAVlnhw3y8QmBbfAZEF-T4dZR7RnKccy3MwoVi5QYgwCknijG2JxrcrBm5suPCjQNdLW5zLDQmd4azWJqy7EPhPXH0MLrdxJsiyiemnqc5yef-Fw/s320/JQ4P5068DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146487519754052018" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">We could not hide anything from them and we could not fool them but they could fool us.<br /><br /><b>Horses can read our mind from a distance very easily.<br />If we are 10 people going towards a horse and only 4 out of 10 had an experience with horses the horse could tell from a distance.<br /><br />If we have a shaky confidence towards horses it will have an immediate effect on horses.<br /></b><br />Taking a single step toward a horse the horse could tell that you had experience with horses or not and if the answer is negative the horse would not have confidence on us.<br /><br /><b>In order to gain Confidence we must give Confidence.</b><br /><br />Horses need Confidence More than we need Confidence because they have been FOOD all their life (Over 50 million years) just put our self in their position just imagine for a moment being food for the predator all your life how would we react ?<br />Actually human was food in the time of Dinosaur.<br />It is our duty to respect the horse which gives us a ride .<br />If we could really Respect them from the bottom of our heart we will gain Confidence.<br />If we could really Honor them we will gain Confidence.<br />If we could accept them as our Partner we will gain Confidence.<br />They need Affection , if we show them Affection we will gain Confidence.<br /><br />We reach into the animals face and want to pet and touch their muzzle (nose). If I reach to someone's face and pet their nose it would be RUDE , THOUGHTLESS and DISRESPECTFUL. We do it to horses all the time . We think because they bring their head down to us to check us out that is OK to pet their nose or face . Or if he/she is sniffing us to investigate and get to know us that are they are all right with us touching their faces. How do we know we are invited or not , most of the time when we want to reach their head they move either sideways or up and down therefore we are not invited . We touch them for us not for them therefore we don't respect them. This is disrespectful to the horse.<br /><br /><b>Horses Focus on One Thing at a Time.</b><br />Horses are either Giving or Receiving Input , but not both at the same time.<br />I encourage humans to be more like a horse when they are with horses and have Requests rather than Demands.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">A good leader doesn't need to DOMINATE.<br /><br /><br />First we have to listen then if we listen more we understand more and with horses we have to learn and understand more from them in order to gain their respect and confidence.<br /><br />To improve our ability to listen with our eyes we have to practice listening with our ears because listening itself is a hard work and needs practicing.<br /><br />The 2nd step is to watch and watch carefully.<br /><br />Video recording is a great help to watch what our horse is saying and to go over and over and learn .<br />To learn we have to accept that our horse is telling us the truth , because sometimes they trick us for what they want us to do for them.<br />Practice working with your horse and learn how they communicate with you and with one and other and practice their movements and behavior that your horse displays.<br /><br />We have to Earn their Respect in doing so we lower the risk of accident and less accident more confidence , more communication less accident , more understanding our horses less accident .<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-87973520059315041042007-12-21T09:41:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:33.189-08:00Mule Has Given Birth !?<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivD1OWMiCnLqMvNnCre8qsQ-vMdiUhYxCuh6BzjRAcDcqSPMacxrkONHXWReFRw5OIj_49xYtBWBIXJDmFlLceUTqNJh9DfT70GBILmYLWb_sRqBVn2oOLbHqPhoasQca8Td7IKvU-sXDr/s1600-h/JQ4P4986DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivD1OWMiCnLqMvNnCre8qsQ-vMdiUhYxCuh6BzjRAcDcqSPMacxrkONHXWReFRw5OIj_49xYtBWBIXJDmFlLceUTqNJh9DfT70GBILmYLWb_sRqBVn2oOLbHqPhoasQca8Td7IKvU-sXDr/s320/JQ4P4986DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146484620651127202" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">This was on the <b>NEWS </b>either <b>CNN or BBC</b> that <b><span style="color:Red;"><u>a Mule has given birth</u></span></b> does anyone know anything about this ? These days some things happen which is hard to believe in <b><span style="color:Red;">but I think its true.<br /><br /></span></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> The link to BBC for the above story:<br />This is from 2002 but there was something similar 1 or 2 days ago in the news.<br />BBC wrote the owner did not know she was pregnant and rode her for for 20 kilometers therefore no one knows who the father is .<br />Is the father a Horse or is it a Male Donkey ? I am sure the Mother Mule knows . I wish her well and good foals to come in the years ahead.<br /><br /><a href="http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2290491.stm" target="_blank">http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/sci/tech/2290491.stm</a><br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;color:Red;" >Visit this one this is the news 2/August/2007 :</span><br /><br /><a href="http://www.kuenselonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4277" target="_blank">http://www.kuenselonline.com/modules.php?name=News&file=article&sid=4277</a><br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" ><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Visit this if you want to:</span></span><br /><br />Mules for sale<br /><a href="http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_6464853" target="_blank">http://www.denverpost.com/search/ci_6464853</a><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-42588731929052822382007-12-21T09:13:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:34.072-08:00RIDING BLIND and BLINDFOLDED<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivwQzaEgzlpvASR-FCcX-YHScE2q3YeVTUPFpuVSglcZ0HLBLujFpTSZH7xvZ4i2oQ99sM-WKBIITelj0LaWqZpkHUI4q30_5IYmk3Y4We77jct0Hf10Za90nrYz5VTE6ol6h6Hs_psvmj/s1600-h/MI9E1931PersianArabMare-Togian-Rockebestan,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEivwQzaEgzlpvASR-FCcX-YHScE2q3YeVTUPFpuVSglcZ0HLBLujFpTSZH7xvZ4i2oQ99sM-WKBIITelj0LaWqZpkHUI4q30_5IYmk3Y4We77jct0Hf10Za90nrYz5VTE6ol6h6Hs_psvmj/s320/MI9E1931PersianArabMare-Togian-Rockebestan,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146481210447094162" border="0" /></a><br /><div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw4VqbsTFXln9EQjV-iTqBMjjyKoJv7Oif-IhCrxDeYsLnG0G0A_TbV8yiW5KgPLKFnZ_xTLTADtWDAUu4aiRCEIi8Oq3feHu9FtyKqvZK-B7o5zSVj1Mhp3CQdQups0E29yP8GoRIj4Tr/s1600-h/MI9E1784DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEiw4VqbsTFXln9EQjV-iTqBMjjyKoJv7Oif-IhCrxDeYsLnG0G0A_TbV8yiW5KgPLKFnZ_xTLTADtWDAUu4aiRCEIi8Oq3feHu9FtyKqvZK-B7o5zSVj1Mhp3CQdQups0E29yP8GoRIj4Tr/s320/MI9E1784DareShuriChapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146480295619060098" border="0" /></a><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><b><u><span style="color:Red;">Different Horses different attitude.</span></u></b></span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />We first start with the riding in the dark for spooking.<br /><u><i>I hope some of you have experienced riding at the time when lets say 18:00 will get dark and we started 17:30 and now going towards the darkness </i></u>, How many have this experience?<br />As we go towards darkness Horses start to pay more attention to their surrounding's and they panic and spook a lot in that period of time (day and light going to night and dark).<br /><br /><b>This kind of reaction to the darkness is one of the basic instincts of the Horse from the moment of birth , Why ? Because this is the exact time which the predators start their Hunt and Horse is one of their prey. Therefore we can understand exactly where the panic and spook comes from.<br /></b><br />I hope everyone would experience this because you will know what I am talking about in action to experience something for yourself is very much difference to something which I describe , isn't it?<br />The above is the root of what I am going to talk about in future so please give me your experiences and knowledge on this one , thank you so much.<br /><br />For those who have not experience this please be very careful because the Horse which you know very well could be something else in these times and you never expect what is going to happen (Western Saddle is very good for these times and spooky Horses and those which panic at the time which I am speaking about why because when the horse panics and jumps side ways you have lot more grip on the saddle especially with your knees and stirrups) and you have lot more chance to stay in the saddle during the spook or panic. <b><span style="color:Red;">And it's the best to give it to someone else to do this part for you if you are new to what I am talking about so please don't go and try because if anything bad happen I will never forgive myself , always be very careful.<br /><br /></span></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> Please give me your thoughts so we can move on to other things which concerns the Horse vision , spooking and panicking.<br />Actually Spook and panic in any kind of living creature uses all the senses and the information from outside especially a Horse which has been food on the predator table from long before (52,000,000 years). In order to survive they have abilities which we don't even know , we pretend to know Horses or any other living creature but actually we don't for example we don't know for sure what colour does the Horse eye recognize and many many other secrets of the nature but now science is helping us to know them better .<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">The placement and structure of your horse’s eyes is vastly different from a human’s. While we can easily wear glasses to correct poor vision, this isn’t possible for horses.<br /><br />Also, we are used to a clear field of vision in front of us. Horses, however, have amazing peripheral vision with two blind spots—one directly in front of its nose extending around four feet in front of it, and the other behind the tail, about ten feet long.<br /><br />When you consider the front blind spot, the abilities of jumping horses seem all the more incredible. The horse loses sight of the obstacle when it is a few feet away and has to rely totally on the rider to tell it when to jump.<br /><br />Horses also are unable to focus their eyes the way humans and most animals can. Have you ever seen a horse raising and lowering its head as it looks at an object? It does that to adjust the focal length, moving until the object comes into focus on its retina. Also, since the horse’s field of vision doesn’t overlap—the right eye sees what’s happening on the right side of its body, and the same on the left—it’s amazing that the horse isn’t confused all the time by two images that don’t match up at all.<br /><br />The horse’s eyes also act something like a human’s bifocals. If the horse lowers its head and looks up, gazing through the upper portion of the eye, it can focus on the horizon. However, if it needs to look at something closer, it will raise its head to regard the object through the lower portion of the eye, where it can focus more clearly.<br /><br />When you see a horse startled by a sudden movement just behind or beside it, its peripheral vision has sighted the movement but it has not yet had time to focus on it. Even when the horse is traveling a familiar path, such as to the stable or pasture, it can be startled by something as small as a paper blowing past.<br /><br />Horses’ night vision is generally superior to that of humans. Horses have a reflective panel on the retina that helps to gather all available light at night. However, horses have a much lower sense of color than people. While they can distinguish green and blue, a horse’s sight is mostly in shades of gray.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:130%;" >Woman wins in dressage with blind Horse.</span><br /><span style="text-decoration: underline; color: rgb(51, 51, 255); font-weight: bold;">http://www.guidehorse.org/news_blind_dressage_horse.htm</span><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >Please see this one too:</span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(51, 51, 255);">http://www.abc.net.au/catalyst/stories/s545781.htm</span><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">I am glad that you find it interesting I hope everyone who deals with Horses read these and know them better we have to learn until the last day of our life from Horses that is the only IH thing that we could do with Horses the only thing that I call IH is learning from them then bring our experiences from what we have learned from them to action and bring them to action by great deal of patience and <b>PATIENCE </b>and <b>PATIENCE.</b><br /><br /><b><span style="color:Red;">To my knowledge those without PATIENCE should not work or have any kind of contact with Horses this is very crucial.</span></b><br /><br />Some people think they know everything (you know who I am talking about) they don't even give the chance to some one to explain what he/she know what are the experiences that he/she has in their life , unfortunately.<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> I don't like blind folding a Horse.<br />It's natural the Horse becomes calm so he/she wont do anything wrong and uses the other senses but the calmness is natural actually he/she becomes more careful.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >Q - </span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> So if it is a natural calm, why do you not like doing it Persianhorse? I only used it once with a horse that had moved to a new yard and wouldn't go in the stable. After trying everything else, we blindfolded her and she went in without a problem.<br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" >A - </span></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Sometimes I do it similar to your case for example to desensitize the ears.<br />I did not say I don't like it to use for something similar to your case .<br />I said it in general I don't like it .<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-68441392671081267902007-12-21T08:11:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:34.364-08:00IMPRINT TRAINING, SENSITIZING AND DESENSITIZING<div style="text-align: center;"><a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvTZLwnYuOBKIWpcuDEwQAUkLSZPrGeGE8kxkZjV6NLvASlcDH8k1GbQiDIgRfV-Uk3JOi-OwCoxNwx4iMHpu2TPx5Aq3-o06hQSfQQiUp3LV_9cDzsQNV-kL7mmyRtENkQ40Uo6eVdSR0/s1600-h/JQ4P5967ArabsTakiehFarmRacingArabs,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhvTZLwnYuOBKIWpcuDEwQAUkLSZPrGeGE8kxkZjV6NLvASlcDH8k1GbQiDIgRfV-Uk3JOi-OwCoxNwx4iMHpu2TPx5Aq3-o06hQSfQQiUp3LV_9cDzsQNV-kL7mmyRtENkQ40Uo6eVdSR0/s320/JQ4P5967ArabsTakiehFarmRacingArabs,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146472895390409074" border="0" /></a><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >I have to thank Dr. Robert M. Miller D.V.M</span><br /></div><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><b>Hi to all :<br />Are these important for the Horses and why?<br />Are these important for Horse keepers and why?<br />In what age is the best time for the Horse to do these?<br />In what age of the Horse the trainers could do these easily without harming the Horse and taking violent actions to achieve our goals?<br />What are the important things in these that are crucial for the Horse and the Handlers?<br />How each step must be done so it would be positive?<br />In my point of view these are very much crucial for both the Horse and the Human and the main reason for this is because it takes all the violent actions of us away in the future and the Horse will benefit from it all of his/her life.<br /><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold;">You have a good and very much crucial point there (fell into the wrong hands).</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">The person who does these he/she must be very well experienced.</span> <span style="font-weight: bold;">Those with much experience but with no Patient and Tolerance no use they could do all things negative.<br /><br /><br /></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;">This method can prevent many accident from happening especially if comes with knowing the body language of the horse.<br /><br />This is a long and intellectual science subject I wish we could have a good and positive debate on this method.<br /><br />This method can save 99% of horse and human problems .<br /><br />This method is even good for humans too.<br /><br />This method is good for other animals too.<br /><br />We can save life , accidents and many other things that are very crucial and we can make the world a better place for horses to live in and I think this is the main goal of every IH horsemanship .<br /><br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">First we do everything on the mother before giving birth to the foal.<br />The mother have to know us has to have no fear of us present when she is foaling actually some one has to be present especially when the mares foal in a box because many bad accidents could happen especially if is the first or second time which the mare is foaling she has no experience how to go on the ground for foaling if she lie close to the wall of the box both could die the mother and the foal.<br /><br />The mother is relaxed in the time of foaling and in the time that we are doing the Imprinting when ever the mother wants she smells the foal and touches the foal with her muzzle and she knows that we are no harm because we have been with her for weeks spending hours in her stable with her in most of the time night time and day time and riding too.<br /><br />We never interfere with the mother and foal relation .<br /><br />Actually we wont prevent the foal from standing actually when the foal try to stand we help her/him in the technical way.<br /><br />We do our work in the time that the foal is on the ground and we do not stop the foal from standing we stop on positive ground and we carry on the next time we never rush on anything.<br /><br />The main point that we do this is the moment of birth we want the foal to feel our breath before her or his mother and we want the foal to see us standing tall just like her or his mother (as I said on lie down a horse) to establish the bound somehow close to the bound with her or his mother.<br /><br />An Imprinted foal becomes a good mother and father and will pass the good behaviors to her foal this is very crucial for future all the foals that I have Imprinted they are good mothers and fathers.<br /><br /><br /><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">What is SENSITIZATION ?</span></span><br />You all remember Pavlov's experiments , do you ?<br />Pavlov was one of the firs scientific behaviorists.<br />He conditioned dogs to a bell which he rang at feeding time.Initially the food not the bell caused the dogs to SALIVATE just by ringing the bell. What had happened ? the dogs were now responding automatically. Pavlov had conditioned their subconscious minds to respond to the bell and cause saliva to flow even in the absence of food. Even if the dogs had wanted to, their conscious minds could not prevent the salivating because the subconscious part of the brain over rules the conscious part.<br />All of us humans have many conditioned responses .<br />For example when I say vinegar your mouth starts to flow with just a word which is vinegar is just like the time you have vinegar in your mouth.<br /><br />These are the conditional responses that I want and each can be taught in minuts if it is properly done I do these in the first or the second day when the foal can stand up on his/her feet properly:<br />We can establish a conditioned response.<br /><br />1- To pick up each foot when asked.<br />2- To be halter broke. (this means the foal will follow the halter lead rope without resistance and the foal will not pull back against the halter when he/she is tied (we do not really tie the foal) we do it in a way that the foal thinks that he/she is tied.<br />3- To move the hinds laterally when cued.<br />4- To back up on command in respond to chest pressure.<br />5- To move forward in respond to butt pressure.<br />We can establish a conditioned response.<br /><br />BJ , I hope that I have explained what is SENSITIZATION .<br /><br />I can explain many things on these subjects is you like.<br /><br />I hope we do at least 5 foals in this way and see how they behave in future when they become mothers and fathers then we judge the most amazing and magical method of training.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b>By this method we can do many things like stopping in a high speed on a losse rein.<br /><br />Please keep in mind that a 2 months old horse is like a 20 years old man the foal is mature right after birth it is not like a dog which is blind and helpless at the time of birth .<br />The foal stands and drinks the mothers milk but the dog has to put the milk into her newborn mouth.<br />If we want a horse to be highly trained for world competitions we must start at that moment.<br />We believe we can not train a 2 years old horse for that purpose a 2 years old horse is a grown up horse just like a 20 years old human you can not teach a 20 years old human the way that you could at beginning now days we give a child a pen in very stages of life or paper and many other things so he/she could get use to what we call learning and educating for future.<br /><br /><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" ><b>Remember about the subconscious and conscious.<br />The answer is definitely yes we as human could never get in between the mother and her child.<br />I ask you a question when we born we do not see our mother for some hours , we spend some hours in the recovery room dose the nurse comes between the mother and her child?<br /><br /></b></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;">These things are done because of us as humans if we where not in favor of using horses to our need then non these would be needed we do all these because we want horses to serve us better and in the same time we want to use the non violent systems which is not common around the world in many places horsemen use violent actions towards horses .<br /><br />For Example when we desensitize a foal to shoeing and the sound of iron hitting the foals hoof this foal when becomes a 2 years old horse no one has problem of shoeing him/her but is she is not desensitized towards the shoeing many people use violent actions to shoe the poor animal and many other thing that work this way.<br /><br />First I have to say that we do not interfere between the mother and the foal the mare is standing by an she smells muzzle to muzzle when ever she wants therefore they wont get separated like human baby.<br /><br />If you read my posts I did say that we have to Imprint Train the mare (mother) first so when she foals at our present she wont feel any negative towards our present and this is very much crucial if we wont do that the mother could attack us very easily and she will not be comfortable about our presents.<br /><br />I just compared the human with horses but it is not the same.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >The NATURE :</span><br />If the mare would foal in a herd in wild and we did not have anything to do with them and we did not need the horse for many purposes yes it was much better to leave them alone and let the nature to do its natural work.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >The HUMAN Interfering:</span><br />First we bring them from the wild and jail them in a box this is especially very bad for the horse eye because the horse eye works like a binocular and most of the horses when they come to indoor environment they mostly get eye problems they mostly go towards blindness unless the stables that when the horse brings his/her head out could see the far distance.<br /><br />But unfortunately its not like that we are going to interfere in their life from the first day to the last, we need them for :<br /><br />1- Riding.<br />2- Jumping.<br />3- Dressage.<br />4- Polo.<br />5- Endurance.<br />6- Long and Short distance running.<br /><br />In old days we used them for :<br /><br />1- Sending the Post around the world.<br />2- We used them as heavy horses for wars and battles.<br />3- Use them for heavy artillery.<br />4- Use them for transporting us like Trains, Buss and Airoplane.<br />and many other needs of human.<br /><br />In that situation we need to train them for the things we want them to compete in we have to find out which horse is good for what kind of our needs for example the horse A is good for cutting, the B horse is good for jumping we should find out these in the very early stages of life we can not let the time pass and in 2 years old decide for what kind of job this horse is good for.<br />these are the training which we have to in early stages of life if we want the poor horse to become good at.<br /><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >Imprinting a foal is not just manipulating the foal it is FAR GREATER THAN THAT:</span><br />1- Bonding.<br />2- Habituation.<br />3- Sensitization.<br />4- Dominance.<br />5- The Mare (how we should Imprint Train the Mother because of the needs in the future).<br />6- Immediate Postpartum Procedure as first session.<br />7- The second session.<br />8- The third session.<br />9- Teaching the foal to Tie.<br />10- More Halter Training.<br />11- Advanced Halter Training.<br />12- Teaching Performance Basics.<br />13- Reinforcing Responses.<br />14- Preventing Problems.<br />15- Effects of Imprint Training On Mares.(Very much Important and Crucial).<br />16- Imprinting the MULES are a bit different with horses.<br /><br />All the resistance to the Idea of training foals are coming from the race horse people , there is a belief that if a young horse is taught to be well mannered and obedient and if he/she is not flighty he/she will not run well this is the main reason behind all that and the other reason is because they do not know the Training.<br /><br />I wish you all the best and hope we open a positive debate on the Imprint Training of the new born foal and be well informed about the things we want to post on this thread so in the end many people which want to know about this could use this thread and this thread could help them in any way relating to horse training in early stages of life and be well informed about the benefits for the horses , the mothers and the owners .<br /><br />We are trying to make the world a better place for them (Horses) to live happily,no fear from man and no pain either mentally or physically. </span><br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">No mother could put changes between her childes if they do so the reason is somewhere else in this one is because the mother had more pain in the house with no doctors to give her confidence and pain killer as we all know the only thing that makes us put different between our loved ones is how much we take hard time for them or how much we sacrifize for them it is all about that not being aprt from each other for some hours.<br /><br />let me bring another examples for you :<br /><br />1-A is a rose plant that I brought you and you planted the A rose in your garden.<br />B is a same family,color and as healthy as the A rose but you have bought the B rose and planted it in your garden by your self which one will you care for most the A rose or the B rose?<br /><br /><br />2-You have one mare she gives birth to a foal in a time that you are on holiday (for example) the next year the same mare from the same stallion gives birth to a foal the you spent most of you time around her stayed up at nights so if she gives birth you be there and finally she gives birth to a foal that you spent many nights and days around her/his mother which foal is most dear to you?<br /><br />Please answer the question carefully.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;">There are things in breeding which no one could experience in anywhere else but only around horses and in horses life.</span><br />I have seen a new mother killing her own foal right after birth because we as humans interfere in their life.<br />why she killed her own foal because no one has never touched her TEATS and in other words her teats where not desensitized .<br />When the foal gets up on his/her feet and puts her/his mouth to the mothers teats to drink the mothers milks it tickles the mother teats.<br />The natural reaction of a mare when her teats are touched for the very first time is a kick .<br />Especially when it's the first time this mare is having a foal and she has never lived in the herd to see other mares when the give birth after getting up and giving birth the mare will see something in her stall which was not there before and this makes her panic and she would do anything no one knows what each mare has it's own reaction to each matter.<br />Thats why we say any Broodmare whether or not her foal is going to be imprint trained , the broodmare should be gentle , tractable and well halter broke, she should allow us to handle any part of her body it is not unusual to find broodmares that are not broke to ride and the excuse of the owners are "She is just a pasture mare" or "She is just a range mare" or "She is just a broodmare".<br /><br />We know horses are highly MIMIC creatures and if their mothers are well trained the foals will learn from their mothers very quickly and if the mothers are not well trained and they are temperament the foals will learn very quickly also that is why the mares without any training are not qualified for broodmares this is the main point when a mare qualifies for broodmare.<br /><br />I can open a wide range of negative behaviors on these mares and the problems which they cause in future especially if they are in herds.<br /><br />My very best wishes to all of you who are reading , posting and taking this subject seriously and having questions as much as you like and I hope to have the knowledge to answer as much as I can so in the end horses could benefit most .<br /></span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center; font-weight: bold;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><span style="font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">These are the main goals of Imprint Training of a horse :</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />1- Bonding.<br />2- Habituation.<br />3- Sensitization.<br />4- Dominance.<br />5- The Mare (Mother and how to make a good bound with her before and after foaling)<br />6- Immediate after birth procedure , (as the first session of Imprinting).<br />7- The 2nd session of Imprinting.<br />8- The 3rd session of Imprinting.<br />9- The 4th session of Imprinting.<br />10- Teaching the foal to tie,(We never tie the foal for real).<br />11- Halter training of the foal.<br />12- More Halter training of the foal.<br />13- Advanced Halter training of the foal.<br />14- Teaching the foal the basics of Performance.<br />15- Reinforcing the Responses.<br />16- Preventing the Problems.<br /><br />At all time the mother is next to her foal and we use the mother for most of our work as a 2nd handler actually the presents of the mother is a great help and she plays a big roll in our Imprint Training of her foal.<br /><br />Actually Imprint Training has very good and positive effects on the Mare (Mother) and if it is her first time that she is having her foal and her self Imprinted she will be a great help the next time that she gives birth to a foal.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b>The EFFECTS of IMPRINT TRAINING on MARES.</b><br /><br />One of the most frequently having concerns of early training of the foal is it will Interfere with the bonding between the foal and the mare (mother).<br />I have never come across a mare that has rejected her Imprinted foal in my life until now and never heard of such thing.<br /><br />Just imagine a mare see a foal for the first time in her box the situation that she has never seen or experienced , this is one of the reasons of rejections and there has been situations that the mother (any species) has attacked her own new born and killed him/her.<br />Most mares reject their foals because of the udder pain they even would kick and injure their own foals.<br />When a mare foals for the first time and she see a familiar human that she has seen many times before and that human is touching her foal then the mother will reach to her foal and touches and smells her foal with her muzzle , lick and taste her own foal , exactly at that moment something very strong is happening the bonding is taking place and the foal is Imprinted with both the mother and the human at the same time in this case the rejection will never take place and I am 99% sure of what I am saying.<br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">I have noticed that the mare which their foal has been Imprint Trained she wont show any aggressiveness towards human and this is important.(let me add something this method is not good for the wild this has negative results in wild because mare has to be very protectiveness towards her foal in the wild).<br />Even the gentle mare show aggressiveness toward the present of human and they are much protectiveness towards their foals .<br /><br />If you have no bond with the mother is better not to step into her box when she has foal because I have seen many mothers that they have charged anyone who gets near her foal (that is why our work starts with the mother before she gives birth to her foal).<br />You never see a mare with an imprint trained foal act this way.<br /><br />When the foaling mare gets up on her feet she smells the same odder on my hands and on her foal body this is important because it makes a three way bonding ,mare to human , mare to foal , foal to human .<br /><br />Please remember that we are talking about well mannered mares and well halter broke (well manner broodmares).<br /><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >It is a bad experience in general to lose a mother.</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />First I try to find a mare that she has lost her foal this is very important.<br />Imprint train mothers they accept some one else child but others are a bit difficult sometimes very hard but we have to be with them for some time so the mother would accept the foal completely but with imprinted mothers we have not any problem what so ever , actually this is one the good reasons to back up Imprint Training .<br />Because the foals are born in same season which is Spring it is not to hard to find a mother without a foal.<br /><br />But if we wont find a mare which has lost a foal that is something different which I will explain in a near future because right now I must go and this subject needs time.<br /></span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >Q - </span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> Have you had any experience of foals that were bottle fed because the mother died giving birth Persianhorse?<br />How would you teach them to have natural horse instincts?<br /><br /><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >A - </span></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Yes I have it is a bad experience in general to lose a mother.<br /><br />First I try to find a mare that she has lost her foal this is very important.<br />Imprint train mothers they accept some one else child but others are a bit difficult sometimes very hard but we have to be with them for some time so the mother would accept the foal completely but with imprinted mothers we have not any problem what so ever , actually this is one the good reasons to back up Imprint Training .<br />Because the foals are born in same season which is Spring it is not to hard to find a mother without a foal.<br /><br />But if we wont find a mare which has lost a foal that is something different which I will explain in a near future because right now I must go and this subject needs time.<br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">First of all I have to tell you this is very important that how do you keep horses what I mean is :<br /><br />How close are they to their real life their real wild life.<br />Do you keep them in herd or in boxes?<br />How do they live in the environments that you have created for them.<br /><br />Let me bring you an a example that I have before,<br />We have two mares one (X) is living in a herd and the other (Y) is living in a stable box,<br />They both are green in bringing a foal it is their first time that they are pregnant,<br />They foal in one night lets say Monday,<br />How do they react towards their foal?<br />Dose their character (I do not know if I use the right word but I hope you know what I mean) change in the time of pregnancy ?<br />Dose their character (I do not know if I use the right word but ... ) change when they foal ?<br />Can you explain for me each one ?<br />When you answered we start from there, OK?<br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">What is the environments that they live in?<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">If you find a surrogate mother is the best but if you did not find one that is a problem.<br /><br />Is best to bottle feed the foal among the others (the herd) is best to leave her/him among the others and watch her/him closely , they will take care of him/her but you should not let the foal near the mares who has foals themselves because they will kick the foal if goes near them and the smell of the mare milk will make the new born foal go to them and that is dangerous.<br />As the foal gets bigger and bigger the things will be more easier .<br /><br />With such a foal we definitely should do the imprinting.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">What are the affects of Imprinting in weaning time.<br />Dose Imprinting help the Separation anxiety .<br /><br />When we leave the foal behind and go for a ride with the mother and without the foal the foal runs back and forward around the gate and looks always to the spot which he/she last saw the mother and ( presences of Human can not be any help but in dogs the presence of a human can help a little but in Horses there is no chance for the presence of human the foal wont lesson and like no one is there if any one is trying to make connection and be a bit of a help) after we return the foal is in the air jumping all over the mother and dose not care for anything up to some time .<br /><br />The only time which I have seen that my presence helps the foal and they would accept me as a member of their family are the foals that I have Imprinted .<br /><br />Please take your time and think about this because I think it is very much important for those who breed and they have to separate their foals .<br />This is one of the worst moments of my life when I want to separate a foal from his/her mother it really damages the foal inside (mentally) and I think the most important thing from Imprinting is the effect which has in the separation time.<br /><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >Remember the foal which has lost her/his mother and we are raising him/her by hand and hand feeding the foal MUST STAY WITHIN the HERD TO LEARN HOW HORSES LIVE TOGETHER THIS IS CRUCIAL FOR THE REST OF THE FOALS LIFE.</span></span><br /></div><div style="text-align: left;"><span style="font-size:85%;"> <span style="font-size:85%;"> </span></span><br /></div><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-76234249063775513012007-12-21T07:59:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:34.587-08:00SPOOK & PANIC<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjd6UIFU5raECPia07iRdQzI4PXVLQi9yeOAZ1X4gPkvvLpLFbh4oXTeLs-d7zqIyc5sqF2AZbiqTjl6MwpRKQ5dt0dbaYjThePNSl5RWK7XcxTq3Dqr94VuQZ7CohDWBADiLWcpfWhhJpM/s1600-h/JQ4P5039DareShuriStallion-Salar-Chapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjd6UIFU5raECPia07iRdQzI4PXVLQi9yeOAZ1X4gPkvvLpLFbh4oXTeLs-d7zqIyc5sqF2AZbiqTjl6MwpRKQ5dt0dbaYjThePNSl5RWK7XcxTq3Dqr94VuQZ7CohDWBADiLWcpfWhhJpM/s320/JQ4P5039DareShuriStallion-Salar-Chapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146458429940556130" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">I want to open a thread on the Spook and Panic subject so I could post for you dear ones how I deal with such problems and I hope it could be a little help for those who need such information.<br /><br /><i><u>Let me start with this first :</u><br /></i><br /><b><span style="color:Red;">The <span style="color:Black;">IMPRINT TRAINED HORSES </span>are much less spooky and they less panic this is general for all Horses and this is very important.<br /><br />Spook and Panic could kill a rider or it could end up in a bad and sad situation for the rest of someones life.<br /><br />Horses are not to blame for spooking or panicking its their basic instinct for survival.<br /><br /><br /></span></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><u><b>1- Basic Instinct.<br />2- Fear.<br />3- unexperienced.<br />4- Human fault.</b><br /></u><br /><br /><b><span style="color:Red;">If we want more we have to do more but ...</span></b><br /><br />We all have the experience of without warning in our ride the Horse flights,panics, twists,reverses direction and bolts away. Something has obviously scared him/her. It could be a attack,rock,bicycle or a deer jumping in the path ahead of you or something which we didn't see but our Horse did either by eye,ear or the senses which we don't have (this part is very much important so please give it a good amount of time thinking about it).<br /><br />I have said before and I am saying it now we could try and DESENSITIZE our Horse to these things like bicycle,sound of a dry plastic,a pig (Horses are really afraid of pigs when they see one for the first time) but DESENSITIZING method works only for the SPECIFIC experiences and there are simply too many items in the world to get our Horse used to all and DESENSITIZE them all what must we do riding in the wild from light until night is very helpful , riding as much as we can especially in places which we could give our Horse more experience and desensitize them to unknown objects as much as we could is great but there is something else something greater than the ones I said above , WE HAVE TO TEACH THEM WHAT TO DO WHEN THEY BECOME AFRAID, we must ALTER their natural instinct like flight,spin and bolt reaction to fear so they stop and facing that he/she scared from.<br />One of the main reasons that we say never carry a whip or never scare your Horse (we say the same for the human children also) is this so they would find the courage to face what they fear from (Mules have this in their blood more than Horses) but we have to be with them and to show them there is nothing to be afraid of because when they gain confidence from their handler then they see many things with the reaction of their handler they feel true our feeling if we are afraid they become afraid if we are nervous the become nervous if our blood pressure is high their blood pressure will rise too thats why we say don't call them PETS call them PARTNERS.<br /><br /><span style="color:Red;">This is not finished so please give me more time I have to make my thought to text , translate them then type them for you .</span><br />____________________________________________________________________________<br /><br />The training technique based on communication both mental and physical that develops a partnership between the horse and human.<br /><br />Traditional training normally starts with physical restraint then forces the horse to submit to the handler's commands. The INTELLIGENT trainer looks at the horse/human relationship from the horse's point of view and then works with the natural language of the horse.<br /><br />Horses communicate primarily through gestures and positioning of their bodies only followed with physical contact in extreme cases or mutually friendly grooming. Horses are also natural followers and need a leader who knows where they want to go why I say Horses need a good INTELLIGENT leader because for example when a young and unexperienced Horse reaches an obstacle he/she either wants to step back , go round or do something else other than what you want him/her to do.<br /><br />Every horse no matter what his training level, breed, age or past experience, will benefit from all the experience. Every horse lover, from a beginner to a professional trainer will develop a better relationship with their horse if the NON VIOLENT techniques are properly applied.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">We could try and desensitize our Horses to many objects like Deer, Bicycle, Chair, Car, etc but there are simply too many items in the world to get our Horse used to all of them and we can't ask our Horse simply not to be afraid. So what do we have to do?<br /><br />- We Must Teach Them What To Do When They Become AFRAID.<br /><br />- We must ALTER their natural SPIN and BOLT reaction to fear to one of stopping their feet and facing that which scared them.<br /><br />Start with your Horse in his/her halter in a 30 foot rope attached to the halter.<br /><br />Stand 10 to 15 feet in front of your Horse while facing him/her and holding the other end of the rope in your hand.<br /><br />Start making the Cow noise but not so loud and vigor just enough to have him/her hear you making the noise.<br /><br />If he/she stands still go up and pet him/her.<br /><br />Now go back to your original standing point and try again with just a bit louder noise if your Horse dose not move go up and pet him/her and repeat this and each time put more energy to your noise and do the petting.<br /><br />After the Cow noise add the noise Poof (like the air coming out of a balloon) then mix these noises together with great energy while making these noises move your hands up and down like the bird wings flying up and down mixed with the noises and each time that the Horse dose not move pet him/her.<br /><br />Shake a noisy plastic bag at him/her if he/she dose not move drop the scaring object at the point where you are standing then go to him/her and pet NEVER take the scaring object with you while going towards the Horse for petting NEVER.<br /><br />Your Horse is learning that if he simply stops his feet and looks at what is scaring him/her the scaring will stop.<br /><br />If the Horse try at any point during the lesson to run off go with him/her while you continue scaring him/her with whatever your using (Never get behind the Horse because they think the scaring object is chasing them). Try to stay in front of the Horse withers not directly in his/her path where he/she can see you use the rope and gently tug at it to encourage him/her to look at you and stop his/her feet when he/she stops you should immediately quit scaring him/her drop the scaring object and go to him/her and pet.<br /><br />This is not a DESENSITIZING lesson at all .<br />We are not trying to get the Horse to use to the sound of these object the only thing we are trying to do is to teach him/her how to handle his/her fear.<br /><br />The SPOOK PROOFING teaches him/her to stop his/her feet and LOOK at what is SCARING him/her that is the reason we we don't APPROACH the Horse with the SCARY OBJECTS we DROP it and WALK UP to pet them without anything in our hands from the point which we drop the scary object up to pet him or her we try to show them we have nothing in our hands and this is very important for what we want to achieve.<br /><br />We have to do this lesson every day with different objects for example a TRACTOR WITH A HORNE is a good tool for scary object but we have to come off of the tractor and go up to the Horse and pet.<br /><br />I have trained many Horses for HUNTING the Horses which I have trained for hunting they become very good in spook proofing , first the smell of the gun and the gun powder is very important then gun touching the Horses body , the sound of bullet going from the chamber to barrel , holding the gun while on the Horse , shooting from the Horse coming into contact with the Hunt and all of that .<br /><br />I do not train Horses for that purpose any more because killing any kind of animal even a fly it's not me any more and I hate it but we are trying to teach the Horse for SPOOK PROOFING and teaching them how to leave their fears behind we are not talking about killing animals.<br /><br />I have taught many Horses how to attack Wild Dogs and Hyena or Wild Boar (Wild Hog) I hope I have write the name correctly but wild boar is very dangerous for Horses I have seen a male one hitting and opening a mare stomach from one end to the other because they live in very dangerous places.<br /><br />I am saying these to tell you Horses which grow up naturally in that sort of places they normally have no fear but the Horse living around us they have never see these thing or heard any strange noises thats why we have to take their fear away from them and I am not saying its an easy job but nothing is easy in life especially dealing with a living creature and we have to do it we have to it is our duty or otherwise we should not keep them this is what I believe in .<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Gradually they will its like taking something out of them and gaining their Confidence first and letting them know that not all things coming to you either from front or behind are scary.<br /><br />In nature the wild prey like Big Cat, Wild Dogs, Wolf and all the Hunters in general they go to their Hunt from the back.<br />The most sensitive place in the Horses Body is the FLANK AREA this is the place which all Horses are afraid of and most of the Hunter they go for the Flank area.<br /><br />After some time the Horse will realize that all things which are coming from behind are those which he/she has seen from the front but for a Spooky Horse everything is Spooky therefore you have to do your work in a way that it wont Spook the Horse from the Start.<br /><br />My own experience I have trained many Hunting Horses all of them become Spook free when the training is done and let me tell you something they rely on you as their rider.<br /><br />I have a question a Horse with a rider and without a rider dose he/she act the same when seeing a Wolf or a Wild Dog?<br /><br />At the same time we are gaining their confidence too.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">What I mean is a good trained Hunting Horse (the hunting Horses which we train not for FOX hunting) would never panic from a Wolf or Wolf herd but a normal Horse without a rider would panic.<br />What I want to prove is our Horse has confidence on us especially the well trained Hunting Horse and we have confidence on our Horse , we gain their confidence and they gain our confidence like a 2 way road.<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:85%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-36231520310862574932007-12-21T07:28:00.000-08:002008-12-12T16:01:34.773-08:00The RIDER BODY WEIGHT & its MOTIONS on the SADDLE<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWOXOyBiQhRVZX7BcBa_VIEsqes-EfiZ_0oAsyz3DqGJDTYjBxZT829SPbXxNIBIoM_b4LJCyVAvrh0OusC1tKC9a4Ctdo_48BVLBCAkTKA4pQ-zPm3TuKX8ejMUBY2eGJfgVSwJT1xVrb/s1600-h/JQ4P4888DareShuriAshaphanHorseFestival,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEjWOXOyBiQhRVZX7BcBa_VIEsqes-EfiZ_0oAsyz3DqGJDTYjBxZT829SPbXxNIBIoM_b4LJCyVAvrh0OusC1tKC9a4Ctdo_48BVLBCAkTKA4pQ-zPm3TuKX8ejMUBY2eGJfgVSwJT1xVrb/s320/JQ4P4888DareShuriAshaphanHorseFestival,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146454422736068946" border="0" /></a><br /><span style="font-size:85%;">How can we use our body weight and its motions on the saddle to improve our riding ?<br /><br />How important is our body weight and body motion on the saddle?<br /><br />What roll does our weight and its motions plays on the horse and his/her movements ?<br /><br />Can we do these in regard to our weight and body motions?<br /><br /><i>1- Step forward.<br />2- Step backward.<br />3- Step to the right.<br />4- Step to the left.<br />5- Full stop, (Freeze).<br /></i><br />Can we do more complicated steps with regard to our weight and body motions?<br /><br /><b>For Example :</b><br /><br /><i>1- Doing figure 8.<br />2- Circling.<br />3- Spin rapidly.<br />4- Stopping in high speed on a loose rein.<br /></i><br />How horses feel with this method will they be more comfortable?<br /><br />Is this more towards NON VIOLENCE on horses ?<br /><br /><b>For Example :</b><br /><br />1- When a horse stands high on his/her hinds what action should the rider take in regard to BODY WEIGHT and its MOTIONS ?<br /><br />2- When the rider wants to stop a horse what action should the rider take in regard to BODY WEIGHT and its MOTIONS ?<br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Why the most Navicular diseases is on hands only?(not the hind legs).<br /><br />I am sure you have the best vets in your country and this is good and you have to have hope .<br />In this country we dont have vets at all (I can not call them vets only 3 to 5 ) but nothing compare to yours.<br /><br />In this country the main reason of what causes the Navicular is unknown but to my knowledge mostly is because of putting more pressure on the front part of the body (hands).<br /><br />In early stages of navicular disease the horse will be lame after a hard work but it will return to normal after a rest period but it will return and as getting worse the horse trys to land his/her legs on toe when in motion.<br /><br />Many blame the improper trimming and shoeing .<br /><br />Heels too hight and heels too low.<br /><br />Any kind of trimming or shoeing which interferes with the normal action of the FROG (the blood pump of the hoof).<br /><br />Horses that have hard work on a hard surface are more likely to get the navicular problem.<br /><br />We believe horses that they have not learn how to use the hinds as the main source of power and put more pressure on their hands they are more likely to get navicular (the horses that walk on hands instead of the hinds , hands are for changing directions and hinds are the main source of the power to jump , run and flight.<br /><br />The only thing we know for sure is weight and pressure is transmitted to the navicular bone and forcing the navicular bone against the tendons the navicular bone gets bigger and when we put pressure on the center of frog.<br /><br />The best thing is to teach our horses to walk on hinds 80% or more of this disease will vanish hopefully this is very important and the best way to prevent this disease .<br /><br />I hope everything goes well for this horse and I keep my fingers crossed that this is not a navicular disease.<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Let me tell you something very much crucial and important for Horse training because we all belive first things first.<br /><br />In Horse training as I have said before WALK and TROT is our goal NO speed at all.<br />Now our goal is a Horse going on WALK ONLY and TROT ONLY with a PAUSE.<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >After each stop a </span><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" ><span style="font-size:180%;">PAUSE </span></span><span style="font-weight: bold; font-style: italic; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" >can make real difference in our training.</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> Stopping a Horse by the seat of our saddle using the weight of the rider,<br /><br />1- Seating on the saddle in a upright position in the normal way.<br />2- Bending forward from our belt position means going Forward.<br />3- Pressing on the right Stirrup and bending a little (Not bending but putting pressure on the Stirrup) means going to the Right.<br />4- Pressing on the left Stirrup as described in No:3 means going to the Left.<br />5- Sitting hard on our Double Pocket Jeans slightly to the back means Stop.<br /><br />How we teach a Horse to stop without using Reins,<br /><br />1- We need a place which one side is closed and has fence and 2 ends which are also dead ends something like this ] 3 sides are closed.<br />2- We start from point A from walk to trot when the Horse in High Trot and reaching the point B the dead end we seat into the saddle with a bit of a shock and we could add a verbal word like WOW and bring the Horse to the Stop by reins we continue this until the Horse would realize just seating into the saddle way back ans saying WOW means Stop.<br />Actually we are CONDITIONING our Horse to our body weight and the word WOW.<br />When the Horse has been CONDITIONED perfectly now is the time to Loosen the reins and just seat hard on to the saddle and just say WOW.<br />This must be done starting from Walk to High Trot then stopping.<br /><br />The crucial point is at each end when the Horse comes to stop Give the Horse a Good Pause.<br />The Pause at each end (A and B) is very important.<br /><br />If there is any question please Put it Up thank you.<br /><br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-5021420596746919192007-12-21T04:00:00.001-08:002008-12-12T16:01:34.922-08:00<a onblur="try {parent.deselectBloggerImageGracefully();} catch(e) {}" href="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd5c5UJ71J1ZNEEL-7fcIz9RVovRX04zpPlbRjXC1l2QKMjdpWUmMwGZWy0wNJCOKrMt2qMDQgAWZUDLyZfKEVWvHLZdLPLdRnvMuD_0sVIP0_xaTtQZCX-TfS543mjIKFhR25HWCCUNq7/s1600-h/JQ4P5029DareShuriStallion-Salar-Chapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG"><img style="margin: 0pt 0pt 10px 10px; float: right; cursor: pointer;" src="https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhd5c5UJ71J1ZNEEL-7fcIz9RVovRX04zpPlbRjXC1l2QKMjdpWUmMwGZWy0wNJCOKrMt2qMDQgAWZUDLyZfKEVWvHLZdLPLdRnvMuD_0sVIP0_xaTtQZCX-TfS543mjIKFhR25HWCCUNq7/s320/JQ4P5029DareShuriStallion-Salar-Chapar-e-Mehregerd,Iran.JPG" alt="" id="BLOGGER_PHOTO_ID_5146395774957642050" border="0" /></a>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-20189906172717477082007-12-21T02:35:00.000-08:002008-03-24T17:55:10.594-07:00What is Intelligent Horsemanship<span style="font-size:85%;">This is a post I put on the IHDG and they are my own word,Ideas and has nothing to do with it's original IHDG website .<br />What is the Definition of IH (Intelligent Horsemanship) ?<br />Is Intelligent Horsemanship a Process ?<br />Is it possible to write a Dictionary for Intelligent Horsemanship ?<br />What is our responsibility as Horse Lovers (Human being) in Defining Intelligent Horsemanship ?<br />Dose the Horse has any role in Intelligent Horsemanship ? If yes what?<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Some of the definitions of 'intelligent' in my dictionary are: 1. guided by reason; rational. 2. able to modify action in the light of ongoing events. 3. having knowledge and information.<br /><br />Horsemanship : Skill in riding , training and dealing with Horses , anything to do with Horses even up to some degree medical.<br /><br /><br />Up to my knowledge in Intelligent Horsemanship lies great deal of knowledge behind it and we could write books about just these two words with these two words comes our knowledge and understanding how to react especially with the Unknown Horses , Horses that had a bad memory and experience with man (especially those men who act as predator) in their past and to know their unpleasant things that has happened to them and how to cure and solve those problems.<br />Understanding the problems is one thing and choosing the right way to solve those problems is another and I think choosing the right way for solving the problem needs a great deal of knowledge.<br />When we buy a Horse his/her History Book dose not come with them and you realize most Horse dealers they don't say the truth to you.<br /><br />For Example:<br />We buy a Horse in the market now we want to just simply lead him/her by the rope and halter and normally we use a Whip to point direction or what ever and we do this with the other Horses which we have from the time they where young.<br />Our new Horse has a bad memory of Whips this is the time we need Intelligent to observe this problem and understand this new Horse is not like our other Horses and dealing with this new Horse has to be different with others therefore the first thing is to put away the whip and don't even let him/her to know that we have such a thing as a whip in our stable. In this case and thousands more this is our Intelligent which could help us doing such things.<br /><br />If there is any wrong spelling forgive me please.<br />With Regards,<br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><br />PH</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /></span>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-89808481680587224232007-12-21T00:40:00.000-08:002008-04-16T18:01:34.355-07:00Overcome Fear Means Build Up Confidence<div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;color:Red;" >Always Help Your Horse To Overcome Fear This Means Horse/Rider CONFIDENCE.</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><br />I especially put the thread - Horses could read our Body Language from a distance , for you to read.<br />Can you start from scratch? but keeping in mind the thread I put up for you and the thread - Horse basic instinct , you have to start with those rules (always keep them in mind and deal with your horse with those in mind and action).<br /><br />1- Is the horse teeth OK?<br />2- What kind of bridle and bit are you using?<br />3- How is the saddle pad?<br />4- How is the saddle?<br />5- In general there should be no physical problem , when was the last time vet saw the horse?<br />6- When you go up into the saddle how dose the horse keeps the tail , if the horse lowers the tail or puts the tail between his/her legs then there is something wrong with either A- Saddle. B- The saddle pad. C- Something wrong with the horse back or spine. All these must be in good condition.<br /><br />With those rules you should let go of riding for the moment and start long lining your horse with the Outside Line Touching The Horse Hinds Just Above The HOCK'S , if you are doing this for the first time to your horse , the horse will NORMALLY BUCK'S this is a good sign don't take it as a negative sign and soon he/she get use to it this rope on the hind must just touch, no hard pressure on it , circling the horse in both direction's (the time of long lining is up to you just leave some energy for the horse so he/she could give you a ride lets say for 10 to 15 minutes) the long lining must be on Walk and Trot Only always ask for a step back (pressure when the horse puts a step back the pressure automatically will be released this is very important it actually REWARDS the horse when he/she puts a step back .<br /><br />In your post you said that you have a western saddle with a good and thick saddle pad saddle up the horse and with a spare leather stirrup close the stirrups together under the horse belly so the lines could go inside each stirrup ( I use a BOSAL as a bridle I saw you have a DUALLY HALTER) attach the lines to either one and start long lining your horse but on Walk and Trot only.<br /><br />Your stirrups in a Western saddle is longer than English saddle therefore after long lining for some time it would be easier to mount with longer Western stirrups , do not use mounting blocks or anything like that.<br />You should do the above in a Round Pen or a closed area.<br />You should make it hard for your horse when he/she wants to do something wrong and make it easy when he/she wants to do something right.<br />We always have to give our horses a work to do and they will understand if they are doing a job or they are just wondering around and this is very crucial.<br /><br /><br /><br /></b></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:85%;" ><b><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" >Now I Put It Step By Step:</span></b></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><br />1- Long lining for one week starting once a day and in the middle 2 times a day ,1 session in the morning and 1 session in the afternoon or evening.<br />2- After one week of long lining only you start mounting your horse after each session of long lining for 10 to 15 minutes and gradually adding to your riding time but for the time being always long line first then ride.<br />3- When riding after long lining put a very light bridle on your horse if bitless then perfect but keep in mind we don't want to canter or fast running we are going on WALK and TROT only.<br />4- Walk some steps forward , stop and ask for a step to the back release of pressure (crucial).<br />5- Walk then circle to the right, stop and step to the back.(release of pressure,crucial)Rewarding.<br />6- Walk then circle to the left , stop and step to the back.(release of pressure,crucial)Rewarding.<br />7- Do figure 8 on trotting , stop and step to the back.(release of pressure and CRUCIAL BECAUSE OF REWARDING).<br /><br />8- In a place which one side is a good fence and closed going from point A to point B one trot start from point A-------trotting------>seat back into the saddle with all your body weight and say Wooa----->B point STOP.<br />Starting from B------>trotting------->seat back into the saddle with all body weight and Wooa---->Stop. Seat on your back pocket jeans when you want to command STOP.<br /><br />9- Always when your work is finished unfasten the girth this is a REWARD the release of pressure always is the best reward for your horse.<br /><br />If you do this well and step by step you will build up your horse in everything you want your horse will have confidence on you and you will have confidence on your horse because you are doing something positive , you are not just riding , this is not just a simple ride for the fun of it you are building something important.<br /><br />I hope I have not miss anything if there is any question I will be honored to answer.<br /><br /><span style="color:Red;">Make your sessions short per day , short sessions are much effective and will have great quality than the longer ones.<br /><br />Always finish on a good and positive ground EVEN DOING SOMETHING VERY SIMPLE.<br /><br />Prepare the ground which you will long line the horse 3 to 5 inch cushion.<br /><br /><br /><br /></span></b></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Some More Tips:</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br /><b>1-Always mount and dismount with mane and rein in hand.</b><br />2-Teach your horse to accept being mounted from both sides, (Not for now).<br />3-Teach your horse to accept being mounted from a block,fence or anywhere, (Not for now).<br /><b>4-Only your toe in the stirrup when mounting and dismounting.</b><br /><b>5-Never let your horse (make it uncomfortable) to walk off when mounting or dismounting, Make it very comfortable to stand still when mounting or dismounting.<br />6-Never allow your horse to walk off when mounted until you are ready and giving the signal to walk , you are in command not the horse.</b><br /><b>7-Never kick your horse , tell him/her to go with your body language.<br />8-Never use the bit for balancing yourself in the saddle.<br />9-Horses learn a lot from the release of pressure , REWARDING , BUT TIMING IS VERY CRUCIAL.<br /></b><span style="color:Red;"><b>10-If it is possible for you to make a dummy it will help , with the help of someone during the long lining session put the dummy on the saddle and tie it , this is a great help for you.</b><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /></span></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-style: italic;font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">Horses Afraid Of RAIN AND WIND:</span></span><br /></div><span style="font-size:85%;"><br />Generally the better your relationship and the deeper your bond of trust with a horse the better all things go.<br /><br />Example:<br />A child who is raised by a fearful and insecure parent will pick up STUFF from the parent a horse will only rise to the level of the humans interacting with it.<br />I would highly suggest you do more on the ground with your horse to develop your own confidence with the horse and the horse's confidence with you , Forget riding for a little while and spend all of your time on the ground with your horse. This is where your bond is really formed anyway. Get used to being with your horse when it is raining and windy. Be with him/her<br />on the ground and get her/him settled during the rain/wind with you near him/her on the ground. Do fun things with him/her on the ground . Have a lot of good and successful action and interaction on the ground . Your horse and you will get closer . Your bond will really deepen. You will come to know your horse more and better if you focus with him/her with you on the ground first. Let the riding be the ice and you the glass , your relationship is important with your horse. You will be amazed at how great your relationship with your horse can become if you stop focusing on riding and focus on the horse itself but not riding (even if it is just for a little while).<br /><br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:180%;"><u style="font-style: italic;"><b>You are doing:</b></u><br /></span><br /><span style=";font-size:130%;color:Red;" > <span style="font-weight: bold;">Your confidence travels right through your body into your horse's , So building your own confidence and you'll build your horse's as well.<br /><br /></span></span></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><span style="font-weight: bold;">PH</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-65235293424029750782007-12-20T23:56:00.000-08:002007-12-21T00:04:27.824-08:00The Equine Musculoskeletal System<span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:130%;" ><b><u>Written By: Leslie Berro.</u><br /></b></span><br /><span style="font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" >The Equine Musculoskeletal System</span><b><br /></b><br /><br />The horse is an athlete; some are more naturally gifted than others. But the common denominator between them all, is that the musculoskeletal system, pound for pound, is their largest bodily component; over 60%! When you buy a horse, you're buying motion. When a million dollar horse no longer moves like one, he isn't one! And this is the system mainly responsible for motion. Yet it is mostly overlooked because it does not reveal itself in radiographic and other testing mediums.<br /><br />The Equine Musculoskeletal System<br /><br /><br />The Four Causes of Excessive Strain are:<br /><br />* Speed of Contraction<br />* Strength of Contraction<br />* Isometric Contraction<br />* Protective Splinting<br /><br /><br />The challenge of training any athlete, is finding the balance between maximum muscle strengthening (hypertrophy) and bodily abuse. Most injuries due to muscular strain are cumulative. It is not the last thing your horse did that caused the problem, but was most likely building for weeks.<br /><br />The normal progression of muscle problems is:<br /><br />Trauma or Strain -----> leads to Tightening -----> creating Spasm or Muscle Tear -----> resulting in Malfunction.<br /><br /><br /><br />The Muscle<br /><br /><br />Generally speaking, a muscle features:<br /><br />* a point of origin (anchor)<br />* a muscle belly (power), and<br />* a point of insertion (motion)<br /><br /><br />It is during the cooling down period after a strenuous workout, when insufficient oxygen (anoxia) is getting to the muscle that it is most susceptible to strain and spasm. Stress is most likely to occur at the muscle's anchor, where it attaches to the bone by tendonous fibers and is the least flexible. Stress point locations are the same for all horses. Features of an equine muscle<br /><br />However, different disciplines stress different points. Depending on whether you train your horse for track racing, endurance, competitive trails, driving, English hunter-jumpers, cross-training, dressage, Western reining, roping, barrel running, cutting, or whatever else, will determine which points are stressed the most by repetitive movements. When a muscle can no longer accommodate what is being demanded of it, it will pull or tear.<br /><br /><br />Importance of Maintaining Good Musculoskeletal Health<br /><br />"Any muscle that is not working for the horse, is working against the horse - actively!" - Jack Meagher<br /><br />Muscles contract and release. Whereas contraction is a generated process, release is not. When muscles tighten and cannot achieve full release, they remain tight and shortened, or contracted. This puts strain on the surrounding areas. Tight shoulders pass their inability to release to the digital flexors and tendons of the fore leg. This creates a dangerous scenario for the lower limbs. Tight muscles lead to spasm (knots) which leads to tears in the fibers.<br /><br />Here's where you start to see short choppy strides, refusals, and resistance in the horse, because it hurts! The tendons become irritated. Most often, one pain killer or another is prescribed and administered to alleviate soreness. But this just addresses the symptom (pain), not the real issue (muscle fiber adherence that results in spasm), not to mention the inevitable side effects and loss of efficacy over time. If the underlying issue, the spasm, is not treated and eliminated, the horse will compensate by passing the problem to other muscle groups. By covering up minor problems, we end up creating major ones. It's only a matter of time before you're headed for a full blown muscle tear or a permanent problem!<br /><br /><br />Signs of Muscular Problems:<br /><br />* Head tossing<br />* Coordination difficulties<br />* Saddle slipping to one side<br />* Short, choppy strides<br />* Improper tracking forward, back, or laterally<br />* Resistance when bending &/or backing<br />* Hind leg scuffing<br />* Girthing problems<br />* Refusing or resisting leads<br />* Unwilling or unable to walk up or down inclines<br />* Poor disposition, eating, or sleeping habits<br />* "Off" for no apparent reason<br /><br /><br />Prevention Is the Best Medicine<br /><br />The best protection against injury there is, is prevention. Most injuries due to muscular strain can be prevented. The more that is expected of your horse, the greater the need for preventive maintenance.<br /><br />Not your horse, you say? Unfortunately, even a buck in just the wrong way, out in the pasture, is enough to strain a muscle. By the time you notice a problem with your horse's movement, it's a sign that a problem has already taken hold. With a sensible training program and regularly scheduled Equine Sports Massage Therapy sessions, you can avoid injury to your horse.<br /><br /><br />I hope this article would help especially those which don't think about the Horse's weight and the amount of workout.<br /><br /><br /><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);">-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br /></span></span></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="color: rgb(255, 0, 0); font-weight: bold;font-size:180%;" > Persian Horse:</span><br /><br /><b>Please will you lesson to what I say and observe in time and see if there is any possibility that I would be right I am not saying you have to this is my knowledge thats all very simple.<br />-You ride a Horse or lunge or long line the body get warm and hot.<br />- You come off or finish the lunging or long lining .<br />- Walk the Horse for some time and let it off on the grass.<br />- The grass is wet on itself and inside , the water on and in the grass and <span style="color:Red;"><u>the Horse starts eating the grass or shall I say the Horse starts drinking the water</u></span>, this will stop the flow and the circulation in blood vessel <span style="color:Red;"><u>especially in the blood vessel of the Hoof and this will end up as laminitis.</u></span><br />I am not saying to agree with me just think about it.<br />We don't allow water near our Horses before 2 to 3 hours after riding but during riding we allow the Horse to drink under saddle.<br /></b><br /><br />Unfitness.<br />The over weight of the Horse.<br />The over weight of the Horse added with the weight of the rider.<br />The food which has close relation with the over weight.<br />Above all the amount of time we put them to work and the kind of work.<br />Sometimes we take the Horse straight out and lunge this is very much towards damage not fitness.<br /><br />let me bring an example:<br />An office secretary or any kind of work which has the seat and a table for it and the person behind it , can you ask him/her to run 100 or 400 meters championship ? the answer is no.<br />For a Horse resting for most of his/her time (24/7 outdoor is not fitness and is resting) lunging is like a poison and it will heart the poor animal.<br />Especially for our Horses if we put them to lunge they fly like a rocket and there is no way of controlling them some times when I ask how do you control a single line lunging and I get the answer by body language or by voice command for our Horses this wont work they have too much energy maybe for a Horse which you have to push to put a step forward lunging would do but for our Horses its out of control. This is where the damage comes in but most of the time wont show right away.<br /><br />Wish you all the very best.<br />Always be careful.</span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><br /></span></span></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"><span style="font-size:180%;"><br />PH</span></span></span></span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-size:130%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);"></span></span></span></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com1tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-5039183199682209931.post-49447162209670611372007-12-20T16:19:00.000-08:002007-12-20T16:33:00.796-08:00Mules For Security<span style="font-size:85%;"><b><span style="color:Red;">Mule for security especially Horse Herd in the time of foaling.<br /></span><br />I just want to share some of my experience on Mule's and how they serve as the security guards in the Horse Herd.<br /><br />They always stay on the wider line of a circle which forms the Horse Herd.<br /><br />They never give up to Wolves , as you know Wolves hunt in pack's and also they never give up on any of the Predators which they want to hunt in a horse herd.<br /><br />We always keep up to 3 Mules for guarding the horse herd only specially in the foaling season which has been started 30 days ago (Middle of April).<br /><br />Mules are excellent for carrying things on their back going into the mountain area , the Horse is not capable of doing such thing as Mule dose , Mule can walk on a line in rocky mountain especially in situations which the packing on the mule back could hit the wall and on the other side is a open area which could fall down into the ground God knows how long in depth.<br /><br />Mules have lots of positive things and they are really helpful to mammals and human.<br /><br />A Mule trainer could train a Horse but a Horse trainer can not train a Mule , (what I mean is a Horse trainer has to learn many things about training a Mule so he/she could train a Mule . Mule training is much harder than Horse training), I hope I could explain properly for you guys forgive me if I didn't do my job well.<br /><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;"> Sometimes we tie down some of the mares in long ropes so the herd will stay in one place and we watch over them day and night in this situation or in any other situation we never tie a Mule somehow they have the DUTY of watching over the herd (just like GUARD DOGS) we believe it's in their blood.<br /><br />The Mule was very popular in British Army in 1st and 2nd world war and the Army used Mules in India and Asia.<br /><br />Mules can stand extreme climates .<br />In the time of danger the Horse will choose to flight and run away but Mules will choose either to fight or flight depending on the individual responding.<br />A well trained Mule is very steady and calm thats why the army used them for carrying explosives and ammunition , they where less likely to panic or get spooky in the time of danger.<br />Mules are very intelligent and sensitive therefore is not positive to stable them for long periods of time , we must work with them most of the time .<br />We never stable the mule more than one day.<br />Mules just like horses could get Laminitis .<br /><br /><br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;">I have lost in a mountain at night and the mule saved my life , I simply grabbed the tail and the Mule find the way and brought me down , I just walked behind the Mule , there was no moon light in the sky.<br /></span><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;">When going in the wild a good and well trained Mule is your best friend.</span><br /><span style="font-size:85%;"><b><br /></b></span><span style="font-size:85%;">Hi Dear :<br />One day I will write for you about Donkey's and Mule's but they are different with horses.<br />A mule trainer can train horses but a horse trainer can not train mule's and donkey's.<br />I don't mean can not I mean the trainer needs to learn other things as well and they are different with horses in training.<br /><br /></span><div style="text-align: center;"><span style="font-size:85%;"><span style="font-weight: bold; color: rgb(255, 0, 0);font-size:180%;" ><br />PH.</span></span><br /></div>Persianhorsehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/16198872869836036369noreply@blogger.com0